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Offline Darth Zakryn

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Erek stuff
« on: January 24, 2011, 03:30:21 PM »
Ok, I have a question. Does anyone else LOVE Erek? I mean, Erek King is one of my all-time favorite Animorphs characters? Here's the first topic to discuss about him.

Does Erek feel remorse for killing all those Controllers? I mean sure, he felt sad because of what the memory did to him, and I know it is a war and killing had to be done, but two things will not scar his image for me. One: Did he kill them painlessly? Rachel says it was brutal, but did he make them suffer before he killed them? Did he do it fast? Snapping necks, severing spines, electrocuting people, etc? And Two: Does he feel remorse that he killed, not just for what it did to him personally?
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011, 04:11:00 PM »
1: It's fair to say that he feels horrible for killing. Not to mention that he is truly unique among the Chee for having been the first of their kind to kill and now every other Chee is going to know him as that guy.

2 I don't think torture is Erek's MO. He's all ready seen his people dying slowly and painfully and he's witnessed humans committing horrible attrocities to one another. He knows how to kill efficiently and I do believe electrical shock would have been the quickest way to do it.

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Re: Erek stuff
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 04:15:04 PM »
I liked Erek too. There are a lot of ways he was useful to the Animorphs. Some of which weren't even exploited.
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Re: Erek stuff
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 04:17:28 PM »
Erek is one of my all time favorite book characters ever.

Of course he felt remorse, if you count both the hosts and the yeerks that's almost a hundred people he butchered

Of course he killed them quickly and painlessly, I always assumed he must have had some sort of energy projection device like Iron man's repulsors, first because it took him about ten seconds to destroy around two dozen human controllers and two dozen hork bajir controllers, second it took him less than ten minutes to get from his house in the middle of the city to the pemalite ship 3 miles under the ocean, and third because Jake said it felt odd blackmailing a creature that could obliterate him down to his individual molecules.

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 06:06:29 PM »
Erek waso ne of my favs too. I wish KA would have given us a full pic of a chee in their natural form, instead of just their feet. Anybody else find it hard to believe Erek just completely stayed out of touch with the Anis since the war ended? I know Cassie said that would probably be the last time they'd see Erek but after all they've been through I found that hard to believe, even if he was mad at them(mostly Jake) Erek was like an unofficial member of the team. Well...he probably would have stopped talking to Jake but I'm sure he kept in touch with Marco and Cassie
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Re: Erek stuff
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2011, 07:15:46 PM »
Quote from: Kingdom Blue on January 24, 2011, 06:06:29 PM
Erek waso ne of my favs too. I wish KA would have given us a full pic of a chee in their natural form, instead of just their feet. Anybody else find it hard to believe Erek just completely stayed out of touch with the Anis since the war ended? I know Cassie said that would probably be the last time they'd see Erek but after all they've been through I found that hard to believe, even if he was mad at them(mostly Jake) Erek was like an unofficial member of the team. Well...he probably would have stopped talking to Jake but I'm sure he kept in touch with Marco and Cassie

Especially Cassie since they seem to be of the same frame of mind (pacifism) and since she's the only one on Earth/still alive at the end of the series.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2011, 07:23:15 PM »
I don't know. It seemed like the only reason she knew where Tobias was is because she worked with the Horks, and he was living with them in Yellowstone.

I don't know if the Chee kept in touch at all.
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Re: Erek stuff
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2011, 08:30:07 PM »
     The Chee made a big deal of "not interfering" with the progress of man. The only reason we know about Erek and the Chee is because Erek wanted to kick Yeerk Ass. I think most of the Chee wanted to keep a low profile after the War.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2011, 08:34:51 PM »
They weren't keeping a low profile already? The anis were the first humans...not even humans, they were first ANYTHING other than the Howlers to know of the Chee's existence
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Re: Erek stuff
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2011, 08:37:50 PM »
Quote from: Kingdom Blue on January 24, 2011, 08:34:51 PM
They weren't keeping a low profile already? The anis were the first humans...not even humans, they were first ANYTHING other than the Howlers to know of the Chee's existence

     Sorry. I should have said "Wanted to CONTINUE keeping a low profile."
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Re: Erek stuff
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2011, 10:16:52 AM »
I know that Erek has a lot of things going for him as far as being a likable character goes, but has everyone forgotten that Erek was one of the contributing factors of Rachels death? If he hadn't taken out the weapons systems they could have disabled the blade ship and handled Tom and the others without sacraficing Rachel.
   Also, I get the whole pacifism thing, but he and the rest of the chee always seemed cowardly to me. What would have happened if America had refused to help stop hitler on the grounds of pasificm?
  I get that war isn't always the answer, but it was clearly need when it came to the yeerks and Erek could have done a whole lot more than he did.
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Re: Erek stuff
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2011, 10:35:09 AM »
Quote from: Unknown user on January 25, 2011, 10:16:52 AM
I know that Erek has a lot of things going for him as far as being a likable character goes, but has everyone forgotten that Erek was one of the contributing factors of Rachels death? If he hadn't taken out the weapons systems they could have disabled the blade ship and handled Tom and the others without sacraficing Rachel.
   Also, I get the whole pacifism thing, but he and the rest of the chee always seemed cowardly to me. What would have happened if America had refused to help stop hitler on the grounds of pasificm?
  I get that war isn't always the answer, but it was clearly need when it came to the yeerks and Erek could have done a whole lot more than he did.

No he couldn't.  The Chee are programmed for non violence, they don't have a choice.  I remember them talking to a female Chee once who said she wished they could do more for the war effort.
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Re: Erek stuff
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2011, 05:40:15 PM »
I haven't forgotten that it's partly Erek's fault that the Bladeship got away. Also espousing pacifism is fine and dandy, but it's been said that it loses its value when you have no choice. Erek has faults. He's not a Marty Stu or anything. You could tell in book 26 that the only reason the Howlers were a threat at all was because Erek's programming was still intact.
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Re: Erek stuff
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2011, 09:11:39 AM »
Quote from: russianspy1234 on January 25, 2011, 10:35:09 AM

No he couldn't.  The Chee are programmed for non violence, they don't have a choice.  I remember them talking to a female Chee once who said she wished they could do more for the war effort.

Yes, they did have a choice; The Animorphs captured a pemalite crystal which would have allowed him and the others to rewrite their programming. In fact, Erek DID rewrite his programming and was so powerful he took out two dozen controlers on his own.
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Re: Erek stuff
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2011, 10:13:33 AM »
Quote from: Unknown user on January 27, 2011, 09:11:39 AM
Quote from: russianspy1234 on January 25, 2011, 10:35:09 AM

No he couldn't.  The Chee are programmed for non violence, they don't have a choice.  I remember them talking to a female Chee once who said she wished they could do more for the war effort.

Yes, they did have a choice; The Animorphs captured a pemalite crystal which would have allowed him and the others to rewrite their programming. In fact, Erek DID rewrite his programming and was so powerful he took out two dozen controlers on his own.

And then the crystal was gotten rid of.  Did the other Chee even know?
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