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Is "The One" a way to start over?
« on: July 10, 2008, 10:30:07 AM »
I've been doing a lot of thinking about the Animorphs ending, how much I hated it, how much I hated that push for Remnants at the end, and all that jazz.

What if The One were like a reset button?

I thought #41 was dumb and pointless the first time I read it, but I realized how much I liked it the last few times I've re-read it. You don't figure this out until the end, but it's a test for Jake to decide whether or not he would save Cassie or save the world. He ends up choosing to save Cassie, which makes this unknown being even more interested in Jake.

Let's take a look at the last book now. Rachel is dead, Tobias is depressed, Jake is tramautized, Marco lives a shallow life, and Cassie is like "whatever, I have a new boyfriend".

Then Tobias, Marco, and Jake go into space to save Ax.

Assuming they die, doesn't their sacrifice mirror Jake's sacrifice for Cassie? Jake knew he was going to die in #41, but saving Cassie was what was important. J/T/M's mission was basically a suicide mission, especially when they took along students that didn't have family.

If the being at the end of #41 is The One, it certainly has the power to revive all of the Animorphs. I'm also going to assume that The One is the being that expelled Crayak, as referenced in the Ellimist Chronicles. If you're powerful enough to get rid of Crayak, you can certainly bring a bunch of teenagers back to life.

I was thinking about this because at first it seemed like a really dumb way to end a series. Introducing a brand new character in the last pages of the book is normally really stupid, especially when it doesn't bring resolution. However, #41 was also totally unexplained. It's usually written off as a filler book, but I don't think it's like the Nartecs or Australia - which both have significance, but whatever.

What if this were a way to tie #41 into the series continuity and just wasn't done as well as it could've been?

I'm not going to want to read a wonderful story if it ends on such a sour note. But what if this were a way for Animorphs to have an unhappy ending and a happy ending at the same time? Like they have all of that suffering but it still works out in the end because they come out of The One with their memories buffered (minus Rachel) and resume their lives right after the Pool Ship? Or they've been taken to the Pool Ship with the knowledge they need to win?

Why else would she have ended it this way?
 

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2008, 10:44:29 AM »
somehow, the one does not strike me as the person at the end of #41.

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2008, 10:51:58 AM »
somehow, the one does not strike me as the person at the end of #41.

Who else would it be?

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2008, 11:12:10 AM »
Applegate should have given a proper explanation for that book's events. Why just not make it Crayak?
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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2008, 11:15:07 AM »
somehow, the one does not strike me as the person at the end of #41.

Who else would it be?

someone completely new. so there are 4...powerful beings. ellimsit, crayak, the guy at the end of #41, and the One
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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2008, 11:16:09 AM »
somehow, the one does not strike me as the person at the end of #41.

Who else would it be?

someone completely new. so there are 4...powerful beings. ellimsit, crayak, the guy at the end of #42, and the One

But that's stupid.

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2008, 11:16:44 AM »
Applegate should have given a proper explanation for that book's events. Why just not make it Crayak?

I agree with you, she should've tied them together somehow without us resorting to guesswork.

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2008, 11:45:33 AM »
Starting from the top:
We're not told who Jake saved in 41; he thought about it and "leaped". He may have choose Cassie, he may have choose the world, hell he may have suddenly found a third option that know one ever thought of. They made a point not to tell us so you can decide for yourself what the most "interesting" decision would have been.
Also, I wouldn't say Marco was living a shallow live. He had his family back, and he was an entertainer, something he was always suited for. Shallow life; no, shallow relationships; maybe. But hey, was 19, and most 19 yros are in shallow relationships, even if they think they're not.

Now The One; I'm with morfowt on this this one, doubt it's the same as the thing in 41. Agree with the notion that the thing in 41 is probably what booted Crayak, the One, not that thing. Here's why: The thing in 41 set up an experiment. It made a maze, but a mouse in it, and watched how it found the cheese. It was an observer, a scientist, it watched and took notes. The One on the other hand went around merging with other aliens and demanding worshippers to run his ships. Hardly seems to be on the same plane of power, or mind-frame. Also, where left with the idea that ramming the blade ship will liberate Ax; via death. What it was that banished Crayak is probably a bit beyond death, certainly death caused by a crash.

The One is a method to start over for sure (assuming they survive, which I personally doubt), that's the whole point of ending on a cliff hanger. But I remain firm that it's ties into the story prior to book 54 are completely non existant, just as the thing in 41 is before and after


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Applegate should have given a proper explanation for that book's events. Why just not make it Crayak?

I agree with you, she should've tied them together somehow without us resorting to guesswork.

Now what fun would that be? :P
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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2008, 11:56:02 AM »
somehow, the one does not strike me as the person at the end of #41.

Who else would it be?

someone completely new. so there are 4...powerful beings. ellimsit, crayak, the guy at the end of #41, and the One
oops. I meant 5. the fifth is father (ellimist chronicles) although he's dead now.

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2008, 05:33:20 PM »
I feel like the One is definitely a separate entity. I really think that although they don't tell you exactly who the thing at the end of #41 is, there are connections to either the Elimist or Crayak. Maybe a third party in their little game that they didn't think was necessary to tell Jake about.

I feel like the One is certainly not as powerful as the Elimist or Crayak.

BTW, anyone else remember reading fan fiction or one of the real books, I'm not sure, where there was a character named Kayarc, because its Crayak backwards?

Anywho, I do think the ending was intended to leave people hanging, not guessing. We aren't supposed to guess what happens and we aren't supposed to know. She had them go out fighting just like they came in, because it sounded like a novel idea. Plus, she probably wrote that part of the plot and couldn't think of how to finish it. So she got lazy and decided just to end it that way. It made sense to her at the time.

And I think there really should be a description on what happened after they rammed the Blade Ship, but I also feel that if there isn't one, that is fine. We assume they actually rammed the ship, right?

LOL. What if they didn't? What if the One stopped them from ramming the ship and instead they talked out their differences?

Point is, we don't know and we aren't supposed to know. All we know is that he gave the order, maybe someone disobeyed him. Maybe he changed his mind and they all lived. And then they bargained it out or the Elimist stepped in.
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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2008, 06:22:34 PM »
If you want to get into technicalities, the Ellimist could revive them is he wanted to. 

He can reverse time, so even if he couldn't exactly bring them back from the dead, then he could at least go back in time to stop them from dieing.  But then that brings into question the limits of his time travel abilities.  What i mean by that is if he could go that far back in time, then couldn't he go back to when he was younger and stop Crayak when he was weaker.

And if he could do that, then he could go back to stop even the One. 

Now, does Crayak have the abilities to warp time, cause the Ellimist only has those powers because of him being sucked into that black hole. 

Other than the obvious creating another parallel universe, why doesnt Ellimist just go back and stop the One and Crayak.

I know that doesnt answer your question

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2008, 06:25:58 PM »
not really. if he directly interfered, he'd break the rules.. if he like brought them back to life, crayak will just use his powers to kill them again.

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2008, 06:33:38 PM »
True he'd be interfering, but if he went back to kill Crayak, then there wouldnt be any rules to break

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2008, 06:39:26 PM »
I think it's safe to assume that Crayak and Ellimist can't go back into time to kill each other. I'd think they'd put that in the rules.

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2008, 06:41:37 PM »
Ignore the rules.

If the Ellimist went back and killed Crayak, there wouldnt be any rules to break.

Furthermore, i dont think Crayak can travel through time, so he couldnt even stop the Ellimist