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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2008, 03:55:44 PM »
That's just not very plausible at all. Sorry :P
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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2008, 05:36:02 PM »
I don't like that ending because I believe that rachel killed david in #48.

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2008, 05:47:25 PM »
I'm with you!  ;D

Why not?  It's a far better ending than "Hey look! This new random bad guy just appeared out of the blue!" 

And you can make a fairly strong case for it.
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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2008, 05:57:49 PM »
What's wrong with "Hey look! This new random bad guy just appeared out of the blue!" ?

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2008, 06:20:54 PM »
Explain why it is not plausible...

I have explained why it is, and I would like to hear why it isn't.

I'm not trying to fight, just curious as to why people would think it isn't really possible. I understand if you are saying no just because you can't see it happening or you don't think it's true, but there is no real evidence(unless I missed something) that suggests it is NOT true. Of course, I also know there is no evidence to suggest it IS true, but I believe it could be.
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I nodded and wiped away my tears. "Yeah," I said. "Until then, we fight."

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2008, 06:26:27 PM »
I didn't say it isn't plausible. it is. I just said I didn't like it.

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2008, 06:38:38 PM »
What's wrong with "Hey look! This new random bad guy just appeared out of the blue!" ?

Nothing really.  Just kinda lacks imagination.  It's much harder to bring in an old character back in a timely new context.  It shows some effort and a bit more thought than "random unexplained evil dude number six".
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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2008, 07:41:28 PM »
Wasn't talking about you morfowt...
I went to the window and looked up at the stars. Somewhere up there, around one of those
cold, twinkling stars, was the Andalite home world. Somewhere up there was . . . hope.

<They'll come,> Tobias said. <The Andalites will come. And until then . . . >

I nodded and wiped away my tears. "Yeah," I said. "Until then, we fight."

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2008, 01:15:29 PM »
I think Rachel killed David and I think The One is the being from #41.

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2008, 01:40:35 PM »
Maybe when they rammed the Blade Ship they went back to book #1 and started over again, and they're really stuck in purgatory. 

Or not.  ;D 


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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2008, 10:30:40 PM »
I think I can bring another semi-plausible theory to the table.

Applegate is obviously fond of Star Trek, and so am I.

I have caught ALOT of references re-reading the last book, and The One sounds almost like the Borg. Specifically the Borg Queen.
The Borg queen refers to herself explicitly as 'The One who is Many' and 'The beggining' in the movie Star Trek First Contact.
(which BTW is about humanity's first FTL flight. and involves a time paradox, specifically a pogo causal loop, many elements mirrored in Animorphs plots)

Also the description of a face that looks like a steel trap jaw and lifeless eyes, that then transfers to a female face, is an almost exact reverse of how the borg queen dies. (her skin is vaporized but her cybernetic skull remains)

Furthermore the word 'assimilate' has been used to describe what happens to those absorbed by the one, this is a *very* borg term.

Lastly using Ax to speak to Jake is HIGHLY reminiscient of when Captain Picard was assimilated by the Borg and made into Locutus, the scene where he confronts his XO (william Riker) closely mirrors the scene between Abosrbed Ax and Jake.

Not saying The One is the Borg, but maybe he/she/it/they were/are Borg *inspired*.

on a side note, a good way to restart would be to have the collision cause a Sario Rip going back to before they blow up the Yeerk pool.
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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2008, 10:34:48 PM »
why before they blow up the yeerk pool?

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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2008, 10:36:09 PM »
Truth be told? personal preference.  :P Thats where I began to dislike the plot.
I was depressed with the plot of the series from shortly after they blew up the Yeerk pool all the way till the end.

Im no one to assume the right of judgement, but personally Id've rather seen the cube get lost to Tom, the pool blow up, a more all out war, some goverment guys in on it, but in the end;
A; Tom sacrifice his life to kill the Visser One's Yeerk and Save Alloram and the Animorphs.
B; the Animorphs all survive
C; the whole thing get covered up as part of the terms negotiated between the Animorphs, the Andalite Government and the US Government.
D; Jake frees his parents.
E; their hometown is largely un-scathed
F; no publicity. at all.
G; some kind of transferance, where another group of kids say finds the morphing cube which say was assumed lost in the destruction of say the bladeship.

Something of that nature.

But if you were going to give them a chance to do things different, that would be the best time, because the destruction of the Yeerk pool was the focal point for the rest of the series events.
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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2008, 10:54:18 PM »
That seems almost too perfect.  Cover-up woulda been nice though (but perhaps impractical)
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Re: Is "The One" a way to start over?
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2008, 11:06:25 PM »
Impracticality, insanity, impossiblity, improbability, implausibility... these things are relative.  ;)

Main thing for me is, wouldnt it have been cool to end in such a way as to do what was done in the last books, then RE-do it so it never happened and their world becomes the world of today thus making it plausible that all this really exists and elaving more to the active imagination.
*anything* is possible, *some* things are probable, this is what is.
And I will continue to deal with what is...
Until it is no more....