Cassie's great crime

[SuperBlue]

     And I never understood why everyone hates Cassie. Yea, her moralizing can be tedious sometimes, and her narration is very dull. But she isn't a monster. At least she was THINKING about doing the right thing. Sure, for some missions there may have been one blatant answer. But come on. You're going to hate on someone for having an opinion and a conscience?

     Some say she's a hypocrite. I don't know about that. I haven't read nearly as many books to form much of an opinion on that. But she isn't evil.

     Come on people.

Thank you! Sure Cassie was a pain in the ass sometimes but somebody needed to be mr/ms morality. LOL I think people just hate Cassie cuz their favorite Anis all died and she's still alive Plus there's that whole Mary-Sue thing in Megamorphs 4

[tobiasthehawk]

I am glad there are plenty of people who get annoyed with Cassie as much as I do. The moralizing just always made me roll my eyes.

[Chad32]

I don't really hate Cassie. However she is my least favorite. All the Anis have done some pretty bad things. Or at least most of them. Some of the worst stuff was done by Cassie, yet KA seems to try her hardest to vindicate what she does. Trapping David doesn't come back to bite her in the butt at all, and in some way giving the Escafil Device away actually helped the Anis. Also Karen just wound up being overlooked by the Yeerks for some reason after book 19. Not to mention that they let Cassie live it down too easily after she left during book 19. All forgiven and forgotten.

I wonder what people think the worst thing each Animorph did during the series. Justified or not.

[Darth Zakryn]

Thank you all! You have given me a lot to think about, and this helps assuage some of my concerns. I can now safely say Cassie's crime is not as bad as I thought it was. Forgive me for sounding all high and mighty, I just guess I take things too seriously. And I AM a spiritual person, so...

[DinosaurNothlit]

I wonder what people think the worst thing each Animorph did during the series. Justified or not.

I've actually been thinking about this quite a bit lately.  However, I think someone would need to make a second topic to discuss it, since we'd get too far off-topic discussing it here.  So . . . who wants the karma?

[Dameg]

The visitor from the future calls the people like Berryman "collateral damages"... Sorry for him but... (season 2 episode 4, no subtitles yet but soon, for the people who wanna watch it...)

Really, it doesn't sound that horrible to me. Maybe I'm not enough sensitive, don't know...

[Morilore]

The only thing Cassie ever did that I can't forgive is David, David, David.  Everyone with a brain knows that killing David quickly would have been far more merciful than killing him slowly, agonizingly, in the living hell of a body that isn't his own on the bottom of the food chain in a place where he is all alone.  That whole plan is rock-solid proof to me that Cassie's definition of evil is just "things that give me the willies."  I can appreciate that as a message of the series, but I don't like how it never came back to bite her.  KA made David Rachel's demon, but IMO he should have been Cassie's demon.

Aftran and the morphing cube I can forgive because Cassie has to deal with the consequences of those choices, of being hated and suspected by her friends, and they rebounded to good things.  How many Yeerks must have deserted after morphing gave them the freedom to escape their society's chains?  

As for Megamorphs, I like to pretend that Megamorphs 2 and 3 never happened.

[Chad32]

Yeah, I harp on Cassie about giving the box up, and some people have defended the decision because of some good things that happened. Trapping David as a rat over just killing him? Did not help anyone. Not one person. And the person it bothers the most isn't even the person that came up with the idea. I'm not even sure why Cassie didn't want to kill him. Because he's Human? That just carries unfortunate implications about the Hork-Bajir and Yeerks she was willing to kill.

[Darth Zakryn]

So true. That always weirded me out; that they were willing to butcher Hork-Bajir on a regular basis, with a childlike mind, but not human-Controllers. Then again, Hork-Bajir are WAY more dangerous than a human host, so.........

[Nar Klawip]

So true. That always weirded me out; that they were willing to butcher Hork-Bajir on a regular basis, with a childlike mind, but not human-Controllers. Then again, Hork-Bajir are WAY more dangerous than a human host, so.........

I thought that was because in the case of humans it could have been them in their place, (you know them as the controllers/role reversal) but the hork bajir were all controllers.

[DinosaurNothlit]

I always thought it was because, by the time they realized that the Hork-bajir weren't, you know, evil (even though Elfangor freaking told them and they just didn't believe him), they'd already killed a whole bunch of them.  So it was sort of a defense mechanism.  They dehumanized the Hork-bajir, rather than having to deal with the mental anguish of all the innocent beings they'd suddenly realized they'd killed.  Of course, once the Animorphs were firmly in denial about the Hork-bajir being anything close to human, it was okay to go right on killing them.

But, yeah, that double-standard always bugged me.  That it was okay to kill Hork-bajir but not humans.

However, I think their unwillingness to kill David stemmed, at least in part, from the fact that they'd already known him for three books at that point.  He was an Animorph, however briefly.  I'd imagine it would be much harder to kill someone you know than a stranger.

KA made David Rachel's demon, but IMO he should have been Cassie's demon.

I definitely agree with that.  Especially given Cassie's tender conscience about other things.

[SuperBlue]

In Cassie's defense with the whole David thing, I probably couldn't have done it either. Can you imagine him screaming in your head as your about to kill him? He'd probably beg and plead the entire time and after that I'd probably feel waaay too bad to kill him. The only Ani that I could see not giving in to David's begging and sob stories would be, no not Rachel, Marco and maybe Ax. lol I always loved how Rachel was portrayed as the group's heartless monster when that title clearly belonged to Marco

[TobiasMasonPark]

In Cassie's defense with the whole David thing, I probably couldn't have done it either. Can you imagine him screaming in your head as your about to kill him? He'd probably beg and plead the entire time and after that I'd probably feel waaay too bad to kill him. The only Ani that I could see not giving in to David's begging and sob stories would be, no not Rachel, Marco and maybe Ax.

     I don't think any of them could handle it. If you remember in the Solution, after Rachel and Ax ditch David on that Island, Ax says, "I'd like to never speak of this again." The only reason Ax agreed to stay with Rachel was because Jake gave him a direct order. Rachel THOUGHT she could take it, but she couldn't.

     Would I have killed David? To be honest, I'm not sure. If Jake put it to a vote, I probably would have voted to have him killed. But I wouldn't want to be the one to do it.

[SuperBlue]

I guess the only time I'd have felt comfortable killing David was if he was attacking me (which is why I thought that book shoulda ended with Rachel(Grizzly) and David(Lion) fighting)

[Chad32]

Having him scream and beg in my head for a minute would be much better than him doing it for two hours. I'd be able to do it, assuming I'd been doing something similar for the past two years or so.