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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2009, 11:51:03 PM »
No. There is no way any andalite would revere life over infestation. Infestation is a fate worse than death. Alloran would rather kill himself by his own blade than stay infested.

You should read The Andalite Chronicles. You learn a lot about Alloran.
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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2009, 12:47:51 AM »
the answer is....mind control.
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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2009, 05:03:05 AM »
I reckon they paralyse him and put him in a box that prevents morphing
yeay, Alloran would rather die than be a controller. Andalites are very seppuku prone (except throat slittting rather than disembowlment)

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2009, 05:45:14 AM »
why do both? it's proven in #33 that paralysis stops morphing too...

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2009, 07:40:27 AM »
Better safe than sorry.

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2009, 09:49:28 PM »
Maybe there's a yeerk whose job is simply to control Alloran while Visser Three feeds? Like in an empty, solid walled room, a yeerk controls him. Everything is locked down, so if the yeerk tried to escape with Alloran's body, it would simply starve from lack Kandrona. When Visser Three is done feeding, he's brought in, and swaps hosts with the yeerk guarding the body. Alloran can't escape or hurt himself, Visser Three has time to feed, and the temporary Yeerk wouldn't try to escape with the host because it knows it will starve.

The only issue would be knowing parts of Visser Three's motives, but possibly that yeerk is kept in isolation or Visser Three has it killed each time. We know he would do such things.

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2009, 02:05:07 AM »
Maybe there's a yeerk whose job is simply to control Alloran while Visser Three feeds? Like in an empty, solid walled room, a yeerk controls him. Everything is locked down, so if the yeerk tried to escape with Alloran's body, it would simply starve from lack Kandrona. When Visser Three is done feeding, he's brought in, and swaps hosts with the yeerk guarding the body. Alloran can't escape or hurt himself, Visser Three has time to feed, and the temporary Yeerk wouldn't try to escape with the host because it knows it will starve.

The only issue would be knowing parts of Visser Three's motives, but possibly that yeerk is kept in isolation or Visser Three has it killed each time. We know he would do such things.
That's a really good theory.

I'm thinking they stunned him.
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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2009, 05:58:15 PM »
If another yeerk infested Alloran, he would gain some of V3s memories too. I don't think V3 would entrust Alloran to any other yeerk, low or high in rank. Besides, there's the same issues. When the door is opened and the guards come in to take the baby-sitter yeerk, what's to stop him from morphing or slashing with his tail to escape?

I think they probably have a custom-made restraint that "hog-ties" them and holds their tail. They're then stunned by a low voltage Dracon Beam.
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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2009, 03:40:16 PM »
I thought it was stated in the later books Alloran was shackled with his head close to the personal pool of Esplin 9466. He also probably was guarded by loyal Yeerks. By the end of the book series, Alloran was so broken he didn't know what it was like to feel free so once broke like that, he had no real need to escape since he wouldn't have gotten far anyhow.
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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2009, 03:45:20 PM »
Sure but don't you think he would at least to Hara Kiri?
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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2009, 07:08:35 PM »
Probably a combination of thigns. Being so mentally broken that fear of failure, and low chance of coming up with a good plan without V3 knowing would reduce motivation. Being heavily guarded, and in a position like Eva where V3 would know if something was going on while in the pool, would make the chance of ecape abysmal.



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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2009, 11:55:34 PM »
I read a fanfic where a force field restrained him. The Yeerks have used force fields before.

The force field could be used to enclose a certain space, so that he couldn't morph anything larger than his normal Andalite body ... and none of his morphs would help him get past a force field anyway.

Although he could nothlitize himself as something small, I guess, so that wouldn't work.

I also seem to remember reading somewhere that Alloran was shackled and chained up with a sheath over his tail blade ... maybe in one of the later books?

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2009, 06:32:56 PM »
Although he could nothlitize himself as something small, I guess, so that wouldn't work.


wow thats a really good point, they can focus on keeping him from escaping all they want but theres really only one way to prevent him from morphing. and if hes willing to die, as most andalites and humans are, then he would def be willing to become a nothlit

so they must have stunned him, its really the only thing they could do

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2009, 12:49:34 AM »
Although ... Maybe Alloran doesn't have any small morphs. Visser Three probably never acquires any. (How big is a djabala, anyway?) And if he were restrained with a force field, that would keep any insects out that he could otherwise acquire.

But stunning him whenever he tried to morph would work just as well. Although he might overuse that and make Visser Three deal with the inconvenience of a stunned host every time he was done feeding. So maybe not just as well.

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2009, 05:18:55 AM »
in fact, visser 3 does have a small morph. he morphed one in #38. don't remember exactly what it was. I only remembered a quote from ax "the visser finally learned bigger is not always better" or something like that.