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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #45 on: October 26, 2009, 08:44:26 AM »
What is bio-stasis? What is Ramonite?

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2009, 09:16:26 AM »
Bio-stasis is a mechanism that freezes the target in suspended animation.  It was first used in book 16 on Ax and Rachel.

Ramonite is a metal that can stretch and contract, or turn transparent, on command.  It was first seen as part of the Blade Ship in book 5, and a box was made of it in MM 1.
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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2009, 03:06:10 AM »
Could a yeerk with a morph capable host, suffer kandrona starvation in a bio-stasis or ramonite box?

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2009, 09:19:11 AM »
Could a yeerk with a morph capable host, suffer kandrona starvation in a bio-stasis or ramonite box?

That's a good question. O.o I know a yeerk can survive on its own in bio-stasis (or whatever Elfangor does to Loren's Yeerk in AC. It's at least similar to that)... I guess it might depend on how that sort of thing would affect it? Like, when the host was in bio-stasis, is the yeerk in bio-stasis, too? Or is it like when the host is unconcious (see Visser)--the host's out, but the yeerk's still concious, just not able to do anything.

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2009, 01:14:25 PM »
I'm pretty sure Yeerks can absorb Kandrona rays without actually swimming in a pool; the pool is just the easiest/most efficient/traditional method of doing it, because it allows thousands of Yeerks to feed off one generator. In #41 (The Familiar) they talk about making a Kandrona moon which would essentially mean that Yeerks don't have to go to the pool anymore, and in another one the Animorphs disrupted a plan to mass produce portable Kandronas that would have made the Pool obsolete. I'm betting Visser Three has a portable Kandrona that he uses to feed while within Alloran's body. Staying in Alloran is pretty much the only way outside of bio-stasis or another Yeerk "holding" him that prevents Alloran from killing himself/becoming a nothlit (which he is willing to do; when they attacked V3 early on and forced the Yeerk out, Alloran tried to kill himself but was too weak and Ax wouldn't do it). But the portable Kandrona I believe is the best and most likely option.

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #50 on: October 28, 2009, 01:23:31 PM »
Turning the moon into a Kandrona emitter was used to turn all bodies of water into Yeerk pools, not to allow Yeerks to stay in their hosts forever. The Yeerk would still have to leave the host and swim in a pool, but it didn't have to be the main Yeerk pool.

And the Portable Kandronas were suitcases with a basin of "water" and a small Kandrona generator inside.

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #51 on: October 28, 2009, 03:24:23 PM »
don't forget that besides kandrona rays, yeerks also got nutrients from the pools.

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2009, 04:06:50 PM »
right, that's why i put "water" in quotations; 'cause it's not entirely water.
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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #53 on: October 28, 2009, 10:28:51 PM »
Plus, if they could just absorb it straight from the Kandrona emitter, they wouldn't have needed the pool anyway... The emitter projected the rays... It was nowhere near the pool...

Along those lines, I have a feeling that the #41 thing was a KASU, because even on the Yeerk homeworld, where they do have a Kandrona-emitting sun, they still have to swim in the pool...  :donno:
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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #54 on: October 28, 2009, 10:52:38 PM »
Turning the moon into a Kandrona emitter was to turn all of the world's pools into Yeerk pools. It wasn't a KASU. The only screw up is the recent misinterpretation, based on a single post.

The goal wasn't to make controllers free of Yeerk pools, it was to free them of having to go to a centralized pool. They could use their own pool instead of having to go underground. They could take 4-day trips and not worry about starvation.
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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #55 on: October 28, 2009, 10:55:42 PM »
Kind of makes me wonder why yeerks evolved into parasites in the first place. O.o I mean, they'd do just fine in the pools on their home world--they could soak up kandrona rays and nutrients all day. Why'd they leave the pools in the first place? It seemed like they'd already infested Gedds by the time the Andalites showed up, so that didn't have anything to do with the initial exodus, so to speak.

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #56 on: October 28, 2009, 11:17:15 PM »
Turning the moon into a Kandrona emitter was to turn all of the world's pools into Yeerk pools. It wasn't a KASU. The only screw up is the recent misinterpretation, based on a single post.

The goal wasn't to make controllers free of Yeerk pools, it was to free them of having to go to a centralized pool. They could use their own pool instead of having to go underground. They could take 4-day trips and not worry about starvation.

Good point, Parker... I guess I should've done my research before posting... *shakes head*
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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #57 on: October 28, 2009, 11:30:58 PM »
It's okay, I've posted before reading fully too.
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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #58 on: November 14, 2009, 04:37:59 AM »
I believe I have figured this out. In Visser, Visser One says
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I spoke to the holographic representation of the Council. Thirteen Yeerks in various host bodies: Nine Hork-Bajir, two Taxxons, and two whose host bodies were so concealed that I could not guess at their form. They were dressed in dark red robes, so dark that they were almost black. They stood, motionless, held in place, suspended by gravity-neutral fields, fed by a continuous refined current of Kandrona rays. [page 6]
which seems to me to clearly indicate that Yeerks can feed on Kandrona Rays while outside the pool. Whether Visser Three had access to these emitters is questionable, but it would certainly solve the problem and I imagine the Yeerk Empire could build one more for the one and only Andalite-Controller.

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Re: How did Visser 3 feed?
« Reply #59 on: November 14, 2009, 05:38:59 AM »
Yeah, but wouldn't one of the 13 want to steal the Andalite host? Yeerks are like the Sith after all.

Also, when he was playing Tobias's Auntie, he had a portable Kandrona, how'd he stop Alloran from fleeing while using that?
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