How did Visser 3 feed?

[Darth Revan]

This is a discussion thread on the way that Visser 3 fed on Kadrona rays without Alloran (Visser 3's host) morphing or escaping.

It's never explained just HOW he does it. The official answer, is that two Hork-Bajir guard him, but there are so many holes in that explanation.

What do you think?

[poparena]

Actually, Hork-Bajirs seem fine during the main Animorphs storyline because I always got the feeling Alloran was kind of a broken soul at that point and wouldn't put up much of a resistance. Early on in his infestation though, they probably had a hell of a time keeping him sedated.

[Chad32]

Yeah. Besides the ramonite box or bio stasis theory, one has to remember he's been through decades of mind rape.

[Sub Visser]

Wasn't there some kind of device?  I'm thinking of when they found Visser One on Earth and she was all alone with a portable Yeerk Pool, wasn't there something she used?

[Darth Revan]

That was for a human. Humans don't have tails to slit their own throats, or the morphing ability to slip out of the restraints.

[MoppingBear]

as i mentioned in the other thread, visser 3 ate a little bit of oatmeal.  if you recall, in several books, the animorphs say things like "wow we were so busy checking if she was sneaking away every 3 days that we didnt notice the whole 2 hours thing" when checking on tobias's "cousin" or when visser 3 morphed the government official because it was too difficult getting a kandrona generator in there.

[Darth Revan]

I highly doubt that. The oatmeal effect doesn't depend on how much is ingested. Alloran would be able to break out more often if V3 did eat any.

Also, they have portable Kandrona's in breifcases.

[MoppingBear]

Also, they have portable Kandrona's in breifcases.

well yes, but thats something any controller would be able to use.  it was a KASU, but the oatmeal thing is just how i like to justify it.  also, given that crazy controllers kept begging for more oatmeal, i think amount did matter.

[Darth Revan]

No, I mean it doesn't take much to get them hooked. It's like hard drugs, only a little bit is needed to get you hooked.
They constantly wanted more, because they were hooked on the stuff.

Not just ANY controller was given a portable Kandrona. Only high profile, high ranked Yeerks got to use portable Kandronas. Portable Kandronas weren't like cell phones. They were special.

It wasn't a KASU.

[MoppingBear]

No, I mean it doesn't take much to get them hooked. It's like hard drugs, only a little bit is needed to get you hooked.
They constantly wanted more, because they were hooked on the stuff.

Not just ANY controller was given a portable Kandrona. Only high profile, high ranked Yeerks got to use portable Kandronas. Portable Kandronas weren't like cell phones. They were special.

It wasn't a KASU.

but wouldnt it have made more sense for visser 3 to have given the portable kandrona to another controller, maybe a high ranking one, but more importantly a human one who wouldnt need to demorph every two hours and would have more experience with humans?  they very definitely played it like he didnt need it.

[Darth Revan]

This entire series Visser 3 has operated on the "If you want something done right, you do it yourself." when it comes to the Animorphs. Why would that change when he could find the spawn of his bitter rival Elfangor is in his grasp?

[voodooqueen126]

I reckon Bio-stasis, Ramonite box, sedation would be the way to go.
No way a portable kandrona or 6 hork-bajir could prevent Alloran from commiting Seppuku or morphing to escape.

[Azguard]

lol. what if they just put alloran into the pool with Visser Threee? like a giant pool specifically for Visser Three? haha

[Darth Revan]

Hahaha, yeah, submerged him in a cage so he couldn't escape.

[Homiegee]

I don't really know Alloran's character that well, but here's the only explanation I can think of that makes sense with the Hork-Bajir guard.

Maybe Alloran wants to live so badly that he won't even try escaping and risk being killed? Or he just values the two hours of non-infestation every three days so he doesn't want to escape, fail, and have to give it up by being rendered unconscious every time after when Visser 3 feeds.

Since Visser 3 is a Yeerk, he knows Alloran's thoughts so he knows Alloran won't try to escape. In that case Visser 3 wouldn't bother sedating Alloran or using a Ramonite box or portable Kandrona. The Hork-Bajir are just in case.

The only thing that would counter that theory is when Alloran asks Ax to kill him in Book 9. Was that a KASU, or was the Hork-Bajir guard as opposed to some other method the KASU?