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Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« on: June 30, 2009, 04:49:01 PM »
Summary
There is a chance for the free Hork-Bajir on Earth to start their own rebellion against the Yeerks. They have the numbers, but they don't have the weapons. And they've learned from the last surviving Arn -- the race that created the Hork-Bajir -- that Aldrea, daughter of Prince Seerow, knew the location of a stolen Yeerk vessel. Unfortunately, the only way to recover the ship is to ask Aldrea herself -- and she's dead. But the Arn has Aldrea's persona stored. And Cassie, Rachel, or Toby Hamee are the closest match. The only problem is that once Aldrea gets into one of their minds, she may not want to come out...

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1. The entire concept for this book is a little bizarre. Let's take it piece by piece. What do you think of the concept of Aldrea having her 'persona' stored in an Ixcila? What about the Ceremony of Rebirth?

2.This book is the second time that the Animorphs voluntarily go off-world (the first being #26 The Attack), yet they seem rather...blase about the whole thing. As if it is no big deal that they suddenly have access to space travel. Thoughts?

3. What do you think about the fact that Aldrea chose Cassie's mind to share? What about their dialogue throughout the book?

4. The climactic scene of this book is where Cassie is morphing over the Yeerk Pool. She morphs from osprey to human to whale somehow keeping her osprey wings through the morphs. Is Cassie THAT good of a morpher? Or is this a KASU?

5. Because of the actions of Cassie et. al. thousands of Yeerks met their death. We see instances of this further along in the series (most notable Jake in #54) with huge emotional consequences. But in this case the repercussions for this vast amount of death is given barely a line. How do you think Cassie and the others regard their missions success and the resulting deaths?

As a note, here's the quote accompanying #5:
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The water continued to drain. The Yeerks in
host bodies might be able to save some of their
brothers and sisters. Not many. Not all. Thousands
of Yeerks would lie there, dying a slow
death of dehydration as the water left them
stranded, or asphyxiation as they sank, helpless,
into the mud.
Because of me.

And finally, this book has one of my favorite quotes in the entire series, so I thought that I would post it just as food for thought:

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So far our freedom here, in this valley,
on this planet, has been bought and paid for
by these humans, our friends. But freedom can't
be given. It must be taken and held and defended.
Our freedom has to be our own creation.
-Toby Hamee

Next week: #35 The Proposal

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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2009, 05:02:34 PM »
I think it's kind of wierd that, after 19 and 29, Cassie would do something like that. Especially with little remorse afterwards. Kind of out of character for her.

This is the book that makes me wonder why Toby didn't take the rest of her people to the Homeworld after Earth was saved. No mention of the resistance force begun here is mentioned afterwards. It seems really odd.

As for Aldrea, I believe she said she subconsciously chose someone in the group that would be strong enough to make her leave. I'm not sure I understand that.

There's also a line where Rachel asks the Arn when the Hork-Bajir get to take revenge on the Arn for what they did. I guess this is because the Arn enabled Alloran to create the quantum virus. It's a sad thing, because if the Arn had really thought hard about it, they could have probably turned the Yeerks into Iskoort. Create a new kind of host, then bioengineer Yeerks so that they could only use that one host.


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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2009, 07:52:36 AM »
1. I think the Arn might have been giving her a second chance.  When the ceremony occured, I thought it was neat.
2. I think by now they've been used to weird stuff.
3. Cassie really surprised me in this book.  I was surprised at how she got Aldrea to cooperate.  I think she got it from hanging around Rachel so much.  As for why Cassie was chosen, I'm guessing she could sense Cassie's sympathy for her actions.
4. Yeah, it's definitely a KASU.
5. I think Jake says it best in book 37.  They were all alive.  That was the only success that mattered.

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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2009, 07:49:08 PM »
I don't think Cassie's epic morphing in this book was a KASU, really. I mean, we know she's talented at morphing, and can control it to a point. So really, it's not so far fetched.

We know that you can't go directly from one morph to another. But there's nowhere that says you can't keep one part of a morph while you start a different one on a different part of your body. Sure, it's probably incredibly difficult, and takes a heck of a lot of focus, but no where does it say it can't be done.

Actually, doesn't Tobias try to do the same thing in book 49? It didn't really work, but the fact that he tried shows at least a bit of continuity on it being possible.
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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2009, 08:07:46 PM »
I thought the *memory of Aldrea* being contained and accessible was way too gimmicky and out-of-tone for Animorphs
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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2009, 11:03:20 PM »
I thought the *memory of Aldrea* being contained and accessible was way too gimmicky and out-of-tone for Animorphs

I don't think the act in itself was gimmicky.....I think that the WAY Aldrea's "being" was contained and preserved was gimmicky. In a book series such as this I would expect it to have something to do with like a technological thumbprint of Aldrea or something. You would "upload" her. I can see her being uploaded into Erek or something. But the whole vial of glowing green liquid and almost borderline religious ceremony thing? It doesn't seem to fit, and it isn't really plausible.

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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2009, 10:20:25 AM »
The Arn are a rac e of biologists. Not technologists. so putting her in a downloadable computer chip would probably be out of character for the Arn.


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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2009, 01:35:02 PM »
I think this was the first animorphs book I genuinely disliked. I don't know, the whole thing didn't seem to make much sense to me at the time, and I still don't really like it.


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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2009, 01:37:46 PM »
#28 was mine
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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2009, 06:24:57 PM »
#28 was mine

Heh, same.


I did actually enjoy this one. I adore the Hork-Bajir, so really, anything that focuses on them...
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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2009, 10:20:35 AM »
#28 was mine
really? I loved #28. I admit this is one book I don't really like. I don't dislike it, but it didn't really appeal to me like #28 or MM#2...

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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2009, 04:39:41 PM »
No, i really enjoyed this book. The Animorphs on the Hork-bajir homeworld? What more could u ask for. I'm just glad they got to meet Aldrea.

Cassie's epic morphing, awesome, but not far-fetched. We always knew how great she was at it. I mean, if Ax can create a totally new human out of all four of their DNA then surely Cassie can pull off a fantastic morphing scene.

Aldrea chose Cassie because she noticed how strong Cassie was, not strong like Rachel and Toby, but mentally strong willed, sympathetic with a great deal of empathy. Right before the ceremony started she started to feel admiration for Aldrea, and i think thats what drew Aldrea to her, someone who understood her actions.

When did Tobias try to cross-morph in book 49? I literally have no idea...

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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2009, 04:44:52 PM »
Tobias tried to make it look like he was demorphing from Taxxon to Andalite, instead of Taxxon to Hawk.


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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2009, 04:51:31 PM »
He was trying to morph his hawk-parts to Andalite as soon as they were appearing, but didn't really succeed. Luckily for him, the rest of the Animorphs formed a shield around him so Taylor couldn't see him anyway.
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Re: Group Re-Read: #34 The Prophecy
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2009, 05:35:22 PM »
Taylor was in book 49? Wait, wasnt that the diversion?