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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #45 on: February 27, 2010, 12:57:56 AM »
I doubt a bladeship could take a nuke.

how about a hundred nukes? how about all the nations aiming their entire nuclear arsenal and launching it all at the same target?
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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #46 on: February 27, 2010, 01:23:18 AM »
And hitting it? Do you guys remember in book 11 when the Animorphs fly the bug fighter? They're seen, and the military scrambles jets to intercept, and then in the bug fighter, they just take off, out of the atmosphere, so fast the jets don't even have time to react. The bug fighter they fly in book 45 behaves in a similar way, but is also capable of traveling underwater. At well over supersonic speed, I might add. I mean, that's speed and maneuverability (and durability) that even the best missiles of today can't come close to matching. And those bug fighters are about as aerodynamic as a brick. If the Blade Ship has similar capabilities, there's no way you could even hit it with a nuke (nukes aren't exactly the pinnacle of maneuverable missile technology), and even then its shield strength is up for debate. I don't think humanity would have a chance of surviving an open war. Avoiding the majority of people becoming infested, maybe, but at the cost of the entire race, one way or another.

As for the handheld Dracons- maybe that's all they need. Think about it- if you could keep the design of a pistol, but incorporate all the accuracy and stopping power of a rifle, you'd probably take the smaller gun, right? It seems to me that handheld Dracons far outclass anything the humans can offer in the way of handheld weaponry- let's face it, you're not going to be vaporizing people with no ammo limit if all you've got is an M16. Why bother with a big, clunky Dracon rifle when the little handheld guns are practically too much firepower already?

I think the Yeerks would be stupid to face humanity in open conflict, but I don't think it's because they'd have trouble winning the war.

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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #47 on: February 27, 2010, 01:51:08 AM »
I'll post more tomorrow, but I just gonna say  a few things now.

A hand held dracon beam would still be hard to aim accurately over long distances. They have no scoop or zoom system, while we could blow them away at ease with out baretts.
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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #48 on: February 27, 2010, 10:45:32 AM »
That's one thing that weirded me out with animorphs. In book 17, they spent 6 weeks or so digging a tunnel to dump in oatmeal. If I was one of them, I'd dump in poison or something.

As I said, heat-seeking missiles would be able to lock on to yeerk ships, EPM or no EMP.

That'd be an interesting urban battle though. a suqad of blue band hork-bajir against a SAS or Delta team. Yes, dracon beams may also be accurate, but so are our weapons and we've got some pretty sweet gunners. Both weapons kill, though we'd maybe want to up the size of our military ammo from 5.56 rounds to to soemthing bigger like 7.62 rounds.
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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #49 on: February 27, 2010, 12:39:14 PM »
how do you know it's heat signature? Oh, and yes Delta or SAS would be freaked, but what would they do? Run? no, they would quickly learn that HBs die from bullets as easy as us.
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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #50 on: February 27, 2010, 01:02:26 PM »
How do you know the Yeerk cloaking doesn't mask the heat signature as well? Relying on heat seeking missiles seems unreliable to me, especially since they're notoriously short range.

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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #51 on: February 27, 2010, 01:44:40 PM »
The humans know what to look for. absent every three days? They'd catch on. Oh, and I doubt the yeerks would use max vaporization power on their dracons for full-scale combat. That'd drain the battery way to fast, they'd probably use a lower power setting to just shoot holes in us.
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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #52 on: February 27, 2010, 04:39:42 PM »
Holes or vaporize or stun, they still have to hit you. And on stun the weapons would not be able to blow down houses or walls.

As for the cloaking, the humans could most likely simply duplicate a eagles vision to see it. and again there is the question of thermal vision.
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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #53 on: February 28, 2010, 12:26:25 AM »
Ah good old Animorphs.

Well logically speaking we wouldn't stand a chance.

Our technology is far inferior, this species has scanners capable of filtering out certain lifeforms and vaporizing them, they have biostasis technology, they have energy based weapons, they have cloaking technology, they have spaceships equipped with faster then light travel, they can generate force fields, they have EMP weapons which they themselves are immune.

They remind me alot of the Goauld in StarGate, parasites that need human hosts.

I think the only thing going for us is the fact that we have far superior numbers, and that they want us alive rather then dead.

I don't think Nuclear Warheads would work, as the Yeerks would be able to detect them from a miles away, and can't they just jump into Zero-Space?

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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #54 on: February 28, 2010, 12:22:12 PM »
I don't think Nuclear Warheads would work, as the Yeerks would be able to detect them from a miles away, and can't they just jump into Zero-Space?

Or move, like, twenty feet to the left, leaving the nuke to sail by and land in the nearest major city? :P

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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #55 on: February 28, 2010, 01:19:45 PM »
 don't forget. In hollywood the humans always win. We always find a way. Whether through computer viruses, or miraculously catching up in technology, or through our music, or through our viruses, we always win. Except in Avatar.
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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #56 on: February 28, 2010, 07:53:42 PM »
Well, in Avatar we did win. The only reason they beat was that the animals rebelled.

Our technology has upgraded since the '90s. We have laser weapons, mass drivers (Rail guns) Which I believe could punch a hole through a bldeships shields with sheer kientic force. FTL travel wouldn't help the yeerks as they can't do prescision jump, and there's no human ships to fight. And remember, humans are very quick to adapt. we could probably develope out own, more advanced beam weapons from stolen dracons.

I think that they would initially burn away a bunch of our major cities and stuff, but then they need to get on the ground and capture and/or kill us. That would be the real hard part. it would probably end like Stalingrad. Brutal urban warfare. Stick your head out and get smoked by a sniper. And for the bladeship, it can only be in one place at once. and like I said, it's quite possible our own laser cannons and rail guns could trash it. I doubt they would lower the poolship in the atmosphere, because it is jsut horrible in atmo. If it did, it would be hit by a couple dozen missiles from mall directions. I can easily imagine a squad of HBs in the city streets looking for humans, until hidden sniper pop their heads open with .50s.
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