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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2010, 11:33:43 PM »
But even if we were left with 0 military we'd all run into the jungle with spears and rocks, we would never stop fighting, they wouldn't get a viable number of people to surrender once word got out exactly what you'd be surrendering to. Even after they killed 5 billion theres no reason for the other billion to surrender.

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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2010, 12:19:12 AM »
Except for all the people who did surrender and become voluntary for one reason or another. Not everyone is diehard. Not everyone keeps fighting and never surrenders.


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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2010, 05:21:48 PM »
Also, for the bladeships shields. I believs could destroye a couple rail gun shot it, seeing as the shields were penetrated, and the bridge was cut off by Elfangor simply ramming it.
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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2010, 05:49:57 PM »
but how do the yeerks know how inferior technology is inferior enough? cavemen weapons, sure they'd be class 5. nuclear weapons, I'm not 100% convinced

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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2010, 07:03:10 PM »
Nuclear weapons that can't hit something in space quickly or easily without being shot down... Nuclear weapons that are a waste due to collateral damage to use on blade ships over cities... The big ICBM's can penetrate atmosphere, I believe, and if not we can make them, but they wouldn't be accurate or fast enough to reach the Yeerk mothership in space without getting gunned down by dracons. The nukes wouldn't help us much. They're designed for massive all-at-once damage to distant land areas, like cities. Not for hitting aerial targets or targets in space.


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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2010, 07:05:07 PM »
We could go Independence day style, steal a bug, load it with ten megatons of death and fly it into the mother ship under the leadership of a former controller. Then blow it all to hell.
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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2010, 12:17:49 AM »
We could go Independence day style, steal a bug, load it with ten megatons of death and fly it into the mother ship under the leadership of a former controller. Then blow it all to hell.


Thats a very good tactic, Im sure when all the crap has hit the fan, remaining viable options like this one would beckon. 

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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2010, 09:05:20 AM »
No, I'm serious. We could probably capture a bug fighter and starve the yeerk our of a controller-pilot and load the fighter with a nuke. The controller could use fly the figter and give the right ID codes and all to dock. Then KA-BOOM!
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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2010, 01:19:59 PM »
You guys are forgetting the biggest advantage the Yeerks have here. They're not just invading aliens with vastly superior technology- these are Yeerks. They go with the silent underground invasion because they can, and because it's their nature. They're not predators; they're parasites. Even if open war with the Yeerk forces did erupt, they'd continue enslaving humanity and trying to get their people into positions of power. They'd try to capture people and send them right back to our side, to act as spies and to sabotage our efforts. There'd be no way to defend against this, and even in open war you could never be sure that the guy sitting next to you is really still on your side. Even if humans set up an attack on a Yeerk facility or ship, it could all go to Hell if there's even one Controller remotely involved on the human side. Even if the last remnants of humanity ran into the jungle to fight the Yeerks with rock and sticks, there's still no way of knowing who's on your side. Aside from being an extremely dangerous situation, I imagine this would be incredibly demoralizing to any human resistance.

Resistance falls apart when everyone has to assume everyone else is a potential enemy. Divided we fall. I don't think humanity would stand a chance. We might fight openly, but there's no way the Yeerks would if they could help it.

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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2010, 12:49:29 PM »
We could set up regulations and all. You know, the three day rule. With former controllers help, we could exploit yeerk secrets, boost our technology up a bit, and probably make scanners to detect yeerks in brains, or to pick up Kandrona particles, stuff like that.
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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2010, 01:36:35 PM »
I can see most of your points, but I honestly don't think the humans stand a chance. At the most, humans may be able to prevent themselves from falling victim to Yeerk servitude. But I believe that would come at the cost of the planet Earth.

We know that Yeerks are not just body snatchers, they are destroyers of worlds. They have no qualms in destroying all of the resources a planet has to offer. Run into the jungle? They'll burn the jungle to the ground.

The Yeerks have a built in instinct that is radically different from human's and just as dangerous. Where humans do not know when to stop and admit defeat, Yeerks will quit when all is lost. This means that if they recognize no possible chance of defeating Earth they will abandon it. They will salvage the human Controllers that they have managed to obtain and use their technology to ignite Earth's atmosphere, or destroy all major cities so that humanity does not become a space faring threat in the future.

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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2010, 05:21:21 PM »
I think it would be possible to win-at the cost of billions of lives.
We would need to adapt yeerk technology as quickly as possible, and ask for aid from other face spearing species.
invent technology that detects controller dom
use a de-centralised guerrilla army (ie each country or nation or even pre-existing terrorist organisations) rahter than a centralised superpower army.
capture yeerk ships ASAP to prevent the eventual Yeerks-destroy-earths-atmosphere scenario.

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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2010, 06:03:56 PM »
so one question.

 if open war is so much more attractive than underground invasion, how come the Council of 13 was never bright enough to notice? I mean, given they are parasites and stuff, but they are also brutal and logical.

 However, I do believe that the underground invasion favored the Animorphs also because they were able to do infiltrating of their own. The Animorphs did more than enough by themselves.
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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2010, 11:02:37 AM »
The Yeerks were after our bodies- I believe silent invasion was the right choice for them, simply because humans would die by the billions rather than become enslaved. Sure, in my opinion they would have stomped us in all-out war, but how many hosts would they have lost? We're nearly as valuable to them as we are to us. The main difference is that they're more than willing to sacrifice the Earth to get at us. Oh, and, like Terenia's saying, if they do lose here, they'd have no problem just wiping us out. War with the Yeerks is interesting because they're after more than our destruction- they have to take as many of us as possible alive.

Yeah, the silent invasion definitely favored the Animorphs. I can't imagine them having been all that important to the war if it took place in the open, and a fair amount of the Yeerk resources were spent trying to cover up what the Animorphs had done. Good thing they were only invading one one front, eh? A second Yeerk Pool in New Hampshire or wherever would have kicked Earth's butt.

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Re: In defence of humanity...
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2010, 01:44:27 PM »
 i wonder why the Yeerks didn't open more fronts. was it inconvenient? would it have drained resources? did they just not have enough Yeerks?
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