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Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: MoppingBear on February 13, 2010, 02:04:34 AM
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How would the series have gone if various things in animorphs had/had not happened?
For example, what if Tobias never got trapped as a hawk? There were various times in the series where his default shape being a birth played a major role.
Post your own questions andor answer others.
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What if Elfangor had gotten to spend a couple of years with Tobias before being spirited away by the Ellimist?
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What if Erek had not been reprogrammed, and just simply restrained himself by his own will instead of his programming?
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What if they never found Ax? His knowledge was definitely useful at times.
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What if the Animorphs were actually able to get the time matrix and they used it to save Elfangor?
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what if they all failed at the beginning?
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Um, are we supposed to answer the what if's or just post possibilities? o.O
What if Marco's mom was actually dead, not a Controller?
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what if elfangor crashed and exploded straight away?
what if seerow was more strict and vigilant with the yeerks?
what if k.a decided not to write animorphs?
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I'm not sure if we're suppoed to answer the what ifs or not.
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i thought i did put ask and answer in the first post... ill take on the erik one. as shown in 26, he definitely has a mean streak to him, i think that without his programming restrictions, he would be killing controllers left and right, and he knew that which is why he reprogrammed himself again.
the way i imagined this going was a person answers the question above them and then posts their own, but i didnt want to set forth a rigid structure in case some questions bore more discussion than others.
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Yeah, he probably already knew there would come another time when he would kill someone. Not that he knew he'd be seeing Howlers again, but maybe he's taking a stroll at dusk and sees some guys grab a woman with intent to rape her.
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What if Visser Three was as smart as he was in the Hork-Bajir Chronicles and Andalite Chronicles throughout the series?
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The Animorphs would have been doomed. No way a non-villain-decayed V3 would have let the events happen as they did in cannon.
What if Tobias had chosen to become a human nothlit when he regained his morphing power?
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He would have been a liability in those days. Wouldn't he?
What if Cassie wasn't sub-temporally grounded or whatever?
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What if Jake was named George?
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What if Visser Three was as smart as he was in the Hork-Bajir Chronicles and Andalite Chronicles throughout the series?
There would have to be another villan for the Animorphs to defeat time and time again, while Visser Three was off doing other tings. That way when he does show up, things will always go south fast for the Anis. He just doesn't show up often enough to need decay to explain the Ani's ability to defeat him. It would be someone else they beat.
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omg what if marco's name was michael instead?!?
what if the series was called 'animorphers' instead of animorphs?
its totally mind blowing
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What if, in #49, Jake had ordered the evacuation of their families right away instead of giving everyone a night to sleep on it?
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That was a REALLY big mistake on his part. Of course going into that battle where the Yeerks got their DNA was bad too. I'm not sure why he did it that way, except that the ghostwriter or KA wanted him to. Thus he was holding the Idiot Ball.
What would have happened if he had done it right is that his family would have been saved, and he wouldn't have started spiraling down into the "We're going to win no matter what" guy.
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Have you heard the theory that Cassie was a Time Lord, and the Time Matrix was her TARDIS?
(It actually explains a lot.)
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I think I have actually heard of that one.
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Fun game:
Take any ficton, and see how many characters you can turn into Time Lords without killing canon.
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ATTENTION: Here is a true ending for the Animorphs series that ALL fans will appreciate. This ENTIRE series NEVER actually happened. I repeat this ENTIRE series NEVER actually happened. The Animorphs series, every single book is a POSSIBLE future.
Let me explain.
We all know of the Andalite Seerow and of course Seerow's Kindness. He gave interstellar travel to the Yeerks which allowed them to leave their homeworld and travel the stars. They immediatly started infesting other races like the Taxxons, and Hork-Bajir then finally humans.
We also know of the Ellimist who are very powerful and can alter space and time, but do not interfere unless intelligent life is threatned. Now that the facts are stated here's my ending.
Right before they enter the Blade ship (FADE OUT). The Ellimist and Seerow are standing on the Yeerk homeworld. The Ellimist turns to look at Seerow and says to him "What you saw is what will transpire if you give the Yeerks the power to travel the stars. You will be responsible for the death and enslavement of COUNTLESS intelligent beings."
Seerow has a look of absolute horror on his face. He replies <I did not posses the knowledge of the consequences of my actions. If I had I would not have made that decision. I would not have given the Yeerks the technology.>
The Ellimist fixed Seerow with an intense stare and replied "You now posses that knowledge. You may still give the Yeerks the technology OR leave this planet and never return."
"What is your decision?"
For Seerow, there was no choice involved.
THE END
That is how Applegate should have ended it. No cliff-hangers, but a perfect unexpected twist that wil make jaws hit the floor. The idea actually popped into my head and I haven't even finished the series. I don't actually know 100% how the series ended, but I've read enough to get the gist and I think my ending is better.
If you agree or disagree with my ending please let me know. I want it to be judged.
Ask youself "What If?" this was Animorphs???
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I love your confidence.
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Thx. It just occured to me that the Ellimist gave the animorphs a choice. Why didnt Seerow get a choice? This ending allows that, but there is bad news. My ending raises a VERY serious question that CAN'T be answered.
What happens to Tobias?
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He wouldn't exist. I just answered it. Elfangor only joined the war because he wanted to make his mark in it. No war, no Elfangor as a warrior, no meeting Loren, no Tobias.
I agree with Jen. Your confidence is admirable. :)
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Have you heard the theory that Cassie was a Time Lord, and the Time Matrix was her TARDIS?
(It actually explains a lot.)
Haha, I've never heard this one...Cassie was a Time Lord (Lady?) all along! Should've seen that one coming!
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Fun game:
Take any ficton, and see how many characters you can turn into Time Lords without killing canon.
That's a rediculously fun game. XD
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Doesn't the addition of even one time told kill Dr. Who cannon?
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I like the idea of this thread, partly because I like pretty much anything with possible time travel involvement, but also because it links in well with my Animorphs Travels story. The entire fic is based on "what if" moments!
A good example is Tobias being trapped as a hawk. Sure it kinda sucked for him, but in the long run the Animorphs would have been screwed without him as a nothlit. There are countless moments in the series where a seemingly small change would have snowballed into huge differences. It's part of the fun in doing my fic, but it's also a potential problem for my character, as well as my myself. There are some things that I either can't (or simply don't want to) change, but it's hard to do without making my character look evil or incompetant.
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I thought of lots of what ifs while rereading the Andalite Chronicles. But here's one:
What if they had stopped the second Skrit Na ship before it went into Z-Space?
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The Andalites would get the Time Matrix, and Earth wouldn't have been invaded by Yeerks.
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Probably true, but who knows what a desperate Andalite race would have done with such a powerful device during a seemingly never-ending war with the Yeerks? Bearing in mind that this was several decades after they had gotten away with using biological warfare on the Hork-Bajir homeworld.
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What if they never found Ax? His knowledge was definitely useful at times.
There would be a lot of Nothlits running around. He always told them how long they had left in morph
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Ax was irreplacable. There was definitely one time that they almost got busted while Demorphing in a yeerk facility, but Ax disposed of the Hork in the room. I don't remember what book that was in, though.
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True enough
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ATTENTION: Here is a true ending for the Animorphs series that ALL fans will appreciate. This ENTIRE series NEVER actually happened. I repeat this ENTIRE series NEVER actually happened. The Animorphs series, every single book is a POSSIBLE future.
Let me explain.
We all know of the Andalite Seerow and of course Seerow's Kindness. He gave interstellar travel to the Yeerks which allowed them to leave their homeworld and travel the stars. They immediatly started infesting other races like the Taxxons, and Hork-Bajir then finally humans.
We also know of the Ellimist who are very powerful and can alter space and time, but do not interfere unless intelligent life is threatned. Now that the facts are stated here's my ending.
Right before they enter the Blade ship (FADE OUT). The Ellimist and Seerow are standing on the Yeerk homeworld. The Ellimist turns to look at Seerow and says to him "What you saw is what will transpire if you give the Yeerks the power to travel the stars. You will be responsible for the death and enslavement of COUNTLESS intelligent beings."
Seerow has a look of absolute horror on his face. He replies <I did not posses the knowledge of the consequences of my actions. If I had I would not have made that decision. I would not have given the Yeerks the technology.>
The Ellimist fixed Seerow with an intense stare and replied "You now posses that knowledge. You may still give the Yeerks the technology OR leave this planet and never return."
"What is your decision?"
For Seerow, there was no choice involved.
THE END
That is how Applegate should have ended it. No cliff-hangers, but a perfect unexpected twist that wil make jaws hit the floor. The idea actually popped into my head and I haven't even finished the series. I don't actually know 100% how the series ended, but I've read enough to get the gist and I think my ending is better.
If you agree or disagree with my ending please let me know. I want it to be judged.
Ask youself "What If?" this was Animorphs???
I agree with having a twist as an ending. But it can't be that far. If Marco read that he'll just say a joke about having wasted reading 12000 pages worth of Animorphs for an ending like this. :))
I mean, it was all a premonition? It felt like. I dunno. A joke. or somethng. XD
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What if the Yeerks found the Iskoorts? (If the Iskoorts weren't so far, for example, they would probably find them looking for other planets to invade, when they're trying to take Earth...)
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That would be a good thing, since a lot of Yeerks would want a mutual relationship instead of parasitic. The Yeerk force invasion would be cut by at most half on earth. Remember, a lot of Yeerks were just kinda forced into this because there was no other way.
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What if the Pemalites were never wiped out by the Howlers--and, by extension the Chee never came to Earth?
What if Cassie HADN'T given Tom the cube?
What if David really DID kill Tobias?
What if Tobias had been the only one to meet Elfangor?
What if Ellimist and Crayak played chess, instead?
What if it was Melissa, instead of Rachel (in a time that wasn't altered by the Time Matrix?)
What if the Animorphs had said yes in the Stranger?
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Some to Most of these "What if?"s sound like good ideas for fan fictions. Not that I'm going to write any, that is.
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What if the Animorphs had said yes in the Stranger?
Didn't they say eventually say yes, and the Ellimist just ignored them and was like "wrong answer, have a magical funtime barbeque future vision!"?
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What if the Pemalites were never wiped out by the Howlers--and, by extension the Chee never came to
Earth?
Dogs would never exist on Earth. The Animorphs would never have been able to pull off those off world missions without the Chee to stand in for them. A lot of battles would have been either impossible or extremely risky without the Chee, including saving Ax when he came down with the flu.
What if Cassie HADN'T given Tom the cube?
There would only be one morphing Yeerk as always. On the upside, they might never have discovered the advantage in giving certain Yeerks and the Taxxons the opportunity to take permanent morphs, thus freeing themselves of servitude.
What if David really DID kill Tobias?
Rachel would have had eagle for dinner. Or killer whale. Or lion or mouse. He'd be a dead man, basically. In real life I imagine the fans would have cried out for blood and Applegate would have lost about half of her readers. But Joss Whedon is known to kill off major characters in a long running series so I don't think it would have totally crippled her.
What if Tobias had been the only one to meet Elfangor?
Pretty much what happened in MM 4: Back to Before only Tobias would have either wound up dead, a nothlit, or worse case scenario, another Controller.
What if Ellimist and Crayak played chess, instead?
Counter question. How friggen cool would it be if programmers made a game like the one Toomin and his species played?
What if it was Melissa, instead of Rachel (in a time that wasn't altered by the Time Matrix?)
I really do wonder about this one. Melissa would have made more sense in the Ellemist's scheme, since Iniss 226 (Chapman's Yeerk) was a high ranking officer who frequently communicated with Visser Three. But in the current timeline, with all that was going on, she would have been a liabilty. Even Visser Three, as high on himself as he was in The Visitor, couldn't ignore the fact that the "Andalite Bandits" always managed to twart a plan that he had discussed with Iniss 226 that very day.
What if the Animorphs had said yes in the Stranger?
Someone answered this one all ready. And for my money it would have still been irrelevant. Ellemist was using the entire set up as an excuse to show them the tower where the Earth based Kandrona was located.
My What Ifs:
What if the Andalites knew about Hork-Bajir Seers?
If the Arn could engineer themselves to die when the Yeerks infested them, why not mass engineer Seers so that the Hork-Bajir would have a better chance of fighting back?
What if Tobias had grown up with his mother?
What if Rachel had been the leader from the beginning?
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I think Tobias would have ended up differently, assuming Loren was fit enough to raise him properly (example not going blind) but I think he would have still been bullied. I imagine that, if Tobias had a father figure growing up (even if he wasn't Elfangor, but a step-father) then he would have ended up more or less like Jake. Either way, he would have known some kind of love.
If Rachel led the team?
A few words: Book 37, times 100!
Maybe Tobias wouldn't have been a nothlit, but Marco and Cassie would either leave or end up dead. Ax would probably direspect Rachel as a leader, being female.
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I'm surprised that nobody has said these.
What if Ax had played his "bluff", and blew up the Yeerk Pool, city and surrounding area with the nuclear bomb in The Deception?
What if Ax went with Estrid and Gonrod?
What if Ax died instead of Rachel?
What if Ax as more confident in himself and became the leader of the Animorphs?
Wow. I think you can tell who my favorite character is. But, seriously, what if Ax blew up the city in The Deception?
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Then California goes boom.
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What if Marco's mom was actually dead, not a Controller?
Marco would've quit the Animorphs
What if the Taxxons and Hork-Bijar never became controllers?
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Assuming that there had been only a single Garatron host, and the the so called conquered Mak and Sstram hosts were not as powerful, physically, as the Hork-Bajir, then the Yeerks wouldn't have been as threatening as they were. They may not have even found Earth.
What if David was given a decent return?
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Define decent. I think David had as good a return as he deserved. Plus it showed us Crayak's character perfectly. He used all lifeforms to his advantage and the only one he was interested in at that point was Rachel.
Why did Ax have to activate the morphing cube to give David the morphing power, but a Buffalo and an Ant were able to get the morphing ability by just accidentally touching the thing?
For that matter, why didn't more animals suddenly have the morphing power? Was Cassie's farm the only farm on Earth without any kind of bugs crawling over things?
(IE: Don't just cite Crappy Ghostwriters. It's a given. Really use your noodle on this one.)
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It wasn't ever stated that Ax had to activate the cube, just that he was holding it. Maybe they just wanted it to be in someone's hands so David was less likely to grab it and run away in a panic.
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Maybe the Animorphs assumed that only Ax could do it.
Maybe they just thought Ax was the only one with the right to touch it.
Or maybe K.A wasnt thinking and wrote that so Ax had something to do.
Check book 50. Is Ax holding the cube when they're recruiting the Auxiliaries?
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Nope. He isn't there for the first round. It's Cassie, Marco and Jake.
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So, technically David all ready had the morphing power from the moment he touched the cube then.
I guess I always assumed that an Andalite had to be holding the cube for the power to be distributed, hence why Ax is holding it and asking David to touch the cube. After they took it apart in the end of the David Trilogy it made sense to me that whatever security programming was in place got reset and the cube was more user friendly at that point.
I just wanted to see what everyone else thought of that particular situation.
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I don't remember where I heard this, but it was on this site. Someone had a theory that when the Animorphs disasembled the box, the software the required an andalite to hold it was deactivated. So that was how the 'Morphs gave others the power and how Buffa-human came to be.
Remember, I did not come up with this. Someone else on this site did.
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They really dissembled the cube at the end of the David books?
I thought that they tricked David by lying about that.
Maybe I just misread a sentence.
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Yeah, I thought it was some Lego that they tricked him with and the box was never even there. But it'd be cool if it could break down.
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I don't remember where I heard this, but it was on this site. Someone had a theory that when the Animorphs disasembled the box, the software the required an andalite to hold it was deactivated. So that was how the 'Morphs gave others the power and how Buffa-human came to be.
Remember, I did not come up with this. Someone else on this site did.
I do love the idea that they broke the box... Here is my explanation.
- The animorphs are making the plan at the end of the David trillogy. Ax explains that the box can be broken down.
- The animorphs ask him to do so (not sure what the plan will be)
- Ax does so, and they realise that one of the parts looks a lot like a lego brick.
- This is how they get the idea.
- Ax puts the box back together (unknowingly resetting the security protocols - he is only a cadet!)
- They go off with a lego brick and leave the box in the freezer (or whereever they were hiding it)
Think this has any merit?
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Wow I really loved reading this thread! As an avid comic fan all my life, I've always loved a good what-if take on the stories or characters within them.
I have one myself that I might just throw out here. Partially based on the facts that everyone in my family looked down on me for 'reading kids books' as I was a mid to late teen. Spend enough time reading characters in a series, you get emotionally invested. You're not just going to stop because you're a year older... That and, for 'kids books,' some really intense stuff happened through out this series! Some things were just brutal, and hard for me to read and imagine happening at such a young age. I was always raised to believe that the kids were the safe ones in scary situations... As an adult looking back, now I understand why Marco was always so reluctant to participate, and why he nagged so much about this "not really being a job for kids."
So, after reading all that Lol, here is my What if....
What if, the Animorphs had been young adults, instead of kids/teens? How would a few more years of life experience had changed some of the decisions they made, and affected situations as a result of them?
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I have one myself that I might just throw out here. Partially based on the facts that everyone in my family looked down on me for 'reading kids books' as I was a mid to late teen.
What if, the Animorphs had been young adults, instead of kids/teens? How would a few more years of life experience had changed some of the decisions they made, and affected situations as a result of them?
First off, man do I sympathize. I got so tired of people calling the Animorphs "childish" or "kiddy". Like, I'd love to see a children's book where are regularly dismembered for angering a guy who decorates his room with an iron maiden.
Secondly, it would appear from your screen name and your classical "morphing" avatar, and the sigpic where Tobias is in the center position that your favorite character is...hmmm...it's coming to me....it's Erek's dad right? Man, what a guy. We only saw him a couple times but I totally agree, Erek's Dad was one of the coolest characters ever. Glad to meet a fan. :p
Anyhow, I've got a thread going involving various "alternate" possibilities for what could have happened to the Animorphs if you ever want to add to that.
For my money, I think if they Animorphs were young adults there would still be the same issues. Classes and possibly a part time job would be in danger as they fought controllers. Basically like the Power Rangers if the Power Rangers had been better written.
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Oh, exactly!!! The books were so violent, I have no shame in admitting that I bawled my eyes out during a few key moments. Marco finding out his thought to be dead mother was alive, and was the enemy.. That one will always just give me cold chills. I don't think I'd be able to cope with that now, let alone being a teenager at the time! KA Applegate is such a great, creative author. Pulling that one out of her sleeve made a dent in me forever, haha.
But yeah, when people say "they were for kids." It's like ... Have they READ the books? They're put in such painful situations... It'd actually hard to imagine them being able to do half they did as kids, I probably wouldn't be able to do less than half of that now! It's insane. But that's war for ya, no one leaves without wounds of some kind.
LOL Thanks for the comments about my pics!! The one of the hawk is actually a picture I took myself, on the day that I re-met up with my old animorphs buddy after 11 years of not seeing him. I know, that sounds like something out of a movie right! I couldn't believe it either, we were both so thrilled, felt like Tobias was linking us back together in some way.
Sure, I'd love to read your thread! I actually really loved the Megamorphs for dealing with the what-if alternate sort of scenarios. Haha, yeah! The young adult idea came from my friend and I diving head first back into the series. We were like, okay, we're in our twenties now. What would we do if we got this power, this chance, but right now. Like you said, likely the same choices would be made, it'd be really interesting to see!
Something I tried to do once back when, was like ... how do I explain. You know how each book deals with a situation but it's mainly through the narrating characters perspective? I wanted to do sort of like, re-telling of the situations, but through other characters narrative. I started writing The Invasion from Tobias' point of view, but school and real life got in my way of doing much more than a chapter. Still, I'd love to stir that up again sometime!
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I have one myself that I might just throw out here. Partially based on the facts that everyone in my family looked down on me for 'reading kids books' as I was a mid to late teen. Spend enough time reading characters in a series, you get emotionally invested. You're not just going to stop because you're a year older... That and, for 'kids books,' some really intense stuff happened through out this series! Some things were just brutal, and hard for me to read and imagine happening at such a young age. I was always raised to believe that the kids were the safe ones in scary situations... As an adult looking back, now I understand why Marco was always so reluctant to participate, and why he nagged so much about this "not really being a job for kids."
Amen to that
I've also thought about what books would be like from a different perspective.
I've also gone through the same thing with the "kid's books" scenario. My 6th grade lit. teacher basically banned me from reading Animorps because, "I was in the advanced class." That made me sooooooo mad.
:jake: random thought, what if my computer froze for 2 hours while they were in morph???? :o
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Yeah!! I think it'd be interesting!
Like my friend and I were always into Ani books, and of course being single-digit ages back then Lol we'd read the books and think "oh yeah, if this were us, we could so do that." ... But, now as an adult looking back at everything those characters went through.. It's like, wow. I doubt I'd be able to harvest that courage where I am today, but to know these characters did so when they were just youngins.. It's scary sometimes. That's why I think it'd be cool to do like an alternate take on it, show them as young adults dealing with these issues. It's tough stuff!
And yes, ugh, I'm willing to bet most everyone here got the typical "those books are for kids" lecture at one point or another in life. But like a previous poster said, people are always getting hurt, nearly dying, dismembering and bringing it upon themselves to keep fighting.. I think it really could work as an adult series all on it's own!!
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I think that was basically the premise behind the rewrite I was going to do.
Post Merged: January 05, 2011, 01:54:13 PM
Here it is. (http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=2181.0) I found out that since I last checked the thread someone attacked my idea and whether or not they will ever read it. For anyone who thinks that my idea for a rewrite meant that I didn't like how the original was written I'd like to point out that I consider myself an author and fully understand the thought that goes into any book or series. I simply think it would be interesting to address issues that never came up in the original. Just to give a couple examples:
What if the yeerks forcibly injected hosts with Heroin?
What if the Animorphs had access to today's internet?
What if Marco and Rachel were regular marijuana users?
What if someone noticed that Jake suddenly decided to quit Basketball?
What if they had cars and cell phones?
What would they post to their facebook/twitter accounts?
These and countless other questions that have occurred to me over the years and the whole idea was to figure these things out.
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Nice!! Yeah, though as a kid myself I loved reading the series back when, but now as an adult, I really have to wonder what someone round my age would be doing if they stumbled into this exact same mission, how would we handle it? It'd be interesting!!
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What if the yeerks forcibly injected hosts with Heroin?
What if the Animorphs had access to today's internet?
What if Marco and Rachel were regular marijuana users?
What if someone noticed that Jake suddenly decided to quit Basketball?
What if they had cars and cell phones?
What would they post to their facebook/twitter accounts?
1: Temporary solution and the body would become useless quicker. It's in the Yeerk's best interests to keep the body as healthy as possible. No telling what heroin would do to a Hork-Bajir or other host-body.
2: Everything Marco said about phonelines.
3: I don't see it happening.
4: They did. Two non-descript characters mentioned it. But kids change interests all the time and Jake is generally a decent kid with a stable family life, so dropping basketball didn't send up any red flags to anyone.
5: Assuming they were old enough to drive, a car would be a registered vehicle that the Yeerks could ID in a heartbeat. Cellphones: See My answer to Number 2.
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What if Marco quit the Animorphs in book five?
What if Cassie couldn't remorph after the events in book nineteen?
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Depending on the time of year Cassie would either live 2-6 weeks or up to 8 months.
Sorry, morbid.
What if it was rainbow sprinkles instead of oatmeal in book 14.
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thenit would get easier to spot a controller when they so hastily refused rainbow sprinkles on their icecream... yum!
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What if it was rainbow sprinkles instead of oatmeal in book 14.
The oatmeal thing was 17. But for that matter I'm surprised that oatmeal was the only weakness to the Yeerks on a planet full of possibilities.
If the Council of Thirteen had demanded Visser Three's Andalite body, would V3 have the gonads to resist? He seemed pretty cowed by them during the events of Visser.
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What if Tobia was never trapped?
What if they decided to kill David instead.
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What if Tobias was never trapped?
What if they decided to kill David instead.
#1 He would've never been able to keep a watch out and he might of been shipped to another relative's house
#2 The Return wouldn't of happened
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What if Tom escaped on the Animorph's first raid on the Yeerk Pool?
What if the Animorphs lost the battle for the Pemalite Crystal?
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1: Tom wasn't all that important as a host at the time. Temrash would have been given another host and risen through the ranks as before. And Tom would either have been killed on sight, or he would have begun trying to form a human resistance against the Yeerks.
2: We know Marco would have been dead at least. The Pemalite crystal would have likely lead the Yeerks to the ship sooner and the Chee would no doubt become involuntary soldiers of the Yeerk Empire, more powerful than any host body. The Andalite homeworld would invariably be screwed.
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1: I repeat my question. What would have happened if the Council of Thirteen tried to take Visser Three's body by force?
2: If Cassie and Tobias never recieved Ax's mirror wave call, we know Ax would have gotten out of the dome ship himself. How different would his character development be if the Animorphs hadn't come to rescue him?
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1) I really don't know. Maybe they'd succeed, since there are thirteen of them.
2) Ax probably would have tried to take over the resistance and felt need to be loyal to Jake.
Post Merged: January 13, 2011, 04:39:28 PM
And what if Elfangor decided to flush the Yeerks in the Andalite chronicles?
I always found that odd. I mean, based on how muchn the Andalites hate the Yeerks and vice versa, you'd think anyone would jump at the chance to flush a pool full of Yeerks into deep space.
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No one should ever jump at the opportunity to perform mass murder. :P
If Ax did murder the Yeerks it's likely that Esplin 9466 would have never infested Alloran and remained in Chapman for awhile. Or, he may have still succeeded, but in a much more offensive sort of way, maybe even infesting Elfangor instead.
1: I repeat my question. What would have happened if the Council of Thirteen tried to take Visser Three's body by force?
I think he would do it. Egotistical and maniacal as Visser Three is he understands power dynamics. If he were absolutely given no choice, then he would do it. Just as he left Alloran in #54 when he was absolutely beaten. Given the choice between Kandrona starvation and giving Alloran to the Council? He would cave. And then he'd find a way to blame Visser One for it.
What if the Andalites did not have tail blades?
What if Cassie didn't live on a farm/have access to so many animals?
What if Rachel had done more to try and save Melissa?
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1) We'd have slower Garatrons, basically. We'd also see a decrease in useless killings on behalf of Visser Three where his subordinates are concerned. And Ax would probably be morphing more often. Another possibility is that the Andalites would have to find a new way to defend themselves, and it may effect their evolution.
2) The kids would probably still break into the zoo to acquire morphs, but Cassie would be fussing about it often. Maybe Tobias wouldn't have gotten trapped as a hawk, because the red tail was at the barn at the time of the Invasion. And they'd have less knowledge about the animals they morphed--assuming that her parents weren't vets.
3) We'd probably have more personal growth for Melissa, and possibly a new Animorph--if not another Chapman-Controller.
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1: I repeat my question. What would have happened if the Council of Thirteen tried to take Visser Three's body by force?
I think he would do it. Egotistical and maniacal as Visser Three is he understands power dynamics. If he were absolutely given no choice, then he would do it. Just as he left Alloran in #54 when he was absolutely beaten. Given the choice between Kandrona starvation and giving Alloran to the Council? He would cave. And then he'd find a way to blame Visser One for it.
I maintain, due to some minor KASU's and the huge difference in personality between main series Visser 3 and Andalite Chronicles Visser 3, that Visser 3 was eating small amounts of oatmeal and as such no longer needed Kandrona Rays.
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What if Cassie didn't live on a farm/have access to so many animals?
More visits to petshops and to the local vet. As a group I think the Animorphs would have figured something out. With the Gardens right there, I think the initial morphing trip would have been similar to Rachel's visit to the zoo in book seven. Heck, for that matter, Rachel might have gone right ahead with a grizzly bear instead of starting off with an Elephant for a battle morph.
3) We'd probably have more personal growth for Melissa, and possibly a new Animorph--if not another Chapman-Controller.
For my money, I think Melissa would wind up a controller long before she became an Animorph.
One of Jake's concerns was what would happen to Tom if the Yeerks associated the attacks from the "Andalite bandits" with Tom's Yeerk in any way, shape, or form. If Rachel basically blew Chapman as their one major lead on what the Yeerks were doing. (Sorry, I love Rachel, but it's true. Chapman was a bird in the hand and it was a lesson to Rachel in allowing your feelings to get in the way of doing the job.)
If Melissa appeared to the Yeerks to be any kind of focus for the animorphs, Visser Three would have given Iniss 226 the proverbial finger and infested her in three Andalite heartbeats.
I think backing off from Chapman was the best thing Rachel could have done for Melissa.
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((before i post my wat if, i feel dumb because i used to no everything about animorphs but cant seem to remember any 'mellisa pop up in my memory banks, who was she?))
What if Ax somehow turned out to be a secret andalite-host?
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Melissa is the only child of Principal Chapman and his wife. The parents became voluntary controllers to keep Melissa from being infested and she is a former best friend of Rachel. They play her character up a bit in the TV series but other then that, Melissa only gets two mentions after book 2.
Once in Megamorphs Three, where it is implied that if Rachel had not become an Animorph Melissa would have. (Hence the fanfictions involving Melissa as an Animorph. Though with KA Applegate's tenancy to cater to the readers, I sort of wonder if there were any fanfictions prior to MM3 that included her as an Animorph.)
The second instance is when Marco trashes Chapman's house with a tank and mentions to Rachel that Fluffer Mckitty (the cat Rachel orginally morphed to get into Chapman's house) was not harmed.
As for Ax being a Yeerk host, the Animoprhs would have been handed over to Visser Three in a heart beat. Or to whatever Visser Ax was working for.
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Well what i meant about that was if ax was like sent to the team to sabotage them. Like a secret agent or watever
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Not the Yeerks style. Maybe on the Andalite homeworld where any victory would be very ambiguous, but Earth if fate handed the Yeerks five morph capable hosts on a silver platter they wouldn't waste time "Sabotaging" them.
This is proven when the Yeerks finally get a hold of the morphing technology and start giving it to every controller and his uncle. (minus the Taxxons and possibly minus the Hork-Bajir, not sure on that.)
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Was the morphing cube given to everyone? I thought it was just a bunch of Yeerks who could be trusted. If it was given to everyone I could imagine how Visser Three must have felt. His massive ego must have deflated to the size of a helmacron after Cassie gave Tom the cube. Now he isn't such a special Yeerk.
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The Animorphs were getting ambushed on sight by morph capable human hosts. So it may not have been given to every controller, but it was certainly given to enough of them to make things very hard on them.
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What if instead of the entire team meeting elfangor, what if only Marco Jake and Tobias met him?
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They would've still learned Tom was a Controller, tried to free him (reluctantly in Marco's case) and tried to acquire battle morphs somehow (maybe Jake asked Cassie if he could pet some dangerous animals at the zoo, though without the guards chasing them I wonder how he would get the tiger morph, if at all). Once in the Yeerk pool, either the Animorphs are captured by Yeerk security when the two men spot them, or they do morph but don't have enough firepower and get captured or killed. Either way, Earth is screwed.
My what if: What if Visser Three had succeeded in making Controllers of the presidents and prime ministers of Russia, France, Britain, Japan, Germany, and the U.S.?
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My what if: What if Visser Three had succeeded in making Controllers of the presidents and prime ministers of Russia, France, Britain, Japan, Germany, and the U.S.?
The five superpowers of the UN Security council alone would basically put the planet in the bag and seal it up.
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What if the Animorphs never met Elfangor, but David still found the box?
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An Andalite still would have to be there to touch it for him to get morphing power, so nothing would happen in terms of HIM getting the ability, but like in canon he might want to sell it, especially with all of the runes around it, and the Yeerks would IMMEDIATELY learn what it was, take it from him, infest his entire family, have one more Yeerk in government, and a blue box to further undermine Earth and advance their invasion. In other words: Earth would be doomed! ;)
What if David hadn't gone traitor?
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That's probably the most curious question of all. We'd have to consider every single mission that the Animorphs would have embarked and how David being there would effect the outcome. Like, what if he screwed up on a particular mission? Would the Iskoort still live? Would the Hork-Bajir valley be exposed? Would the mission to prove the AMR didn't work fail? There are fifty-four books. David joined at the book 20 mark. So that leaves 34 missions.
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I know! Augustine Quill tries to explain what would've happened if Cassie had traveled back in time to prevent David from becoming a traitor, to save some of the lives that were lost in the war. However... he has shared with me that David's girlfriend had sex with him... AGAINST HER WILL. So the story includes rape, and she is GOING TO GO BACK TO HIM, so that puts me off the story. Too bad. It was really good too.
But onto the topic. We'd need to know more about David's personality. And WHY he didn't go traitor. What if he formed feelings for Cassie, of the attraction sort?
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What if the Animorphs were actually able to get the time matrix and they used it to save Elfangor?
Or simply used the Time Matrix to warn Seerow to not give the Yeerk spaceships in the first place, thus erasing the entire Yeerk problem!
What if the Animorphs had gotten the Chee to use their Kandrona generators to keep Yeerk dissidents alive?