Richard's Animorphs Forum
Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: TheSoulEater on June 16, 2008, 10:48:15 PM
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I always wondered how in the world the blue box worked. If it activated simply through touch, shouldn't David have gotten the morphing power when he first found it at the construction site? Or Jake, when he first retrieved it from Elfangor's ship?
Or, if it required a thought-speech command like other Andalite technology, what's up with the buffa-human and ant-Cassie?
These are the things that keep me up at night. >_>
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I think a person with morphing ability has to hold it, then others kind of aquire the power just like they aquire DNA.
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The sort of have to focus on the box the same way you have to focus on a morph to morph it. The ant was concentrating on the Escafil Device because it was walking on it. ETC
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I don't think so. Jake didn't say he was focusing on the box, when he and animorphs got the power.
I think it's just that someone who has the morphing power has to touch the box as well, for the person to get morphing power. I don't think there's any thought involved, because jake wasn't think about acquiring when he and the animorphs got the morphing power. There's probably another way too, so that the first person has morphing power, but that way's probably real complicated, and only andalite scientists know how to do it.
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Well, I think that as long as you touch the blue box for a few seconds, you'll get the power. They only did the thing to David, to decieve him.... in case that he goes to betrayal that he needs an Andalite to have morphing power... I think.
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then why did elfangor touch the box when he gave the morphing power to the animorphs, and they didn't know about David going to turn evil (I don't think even david knew at that point) so why would ax touch the morphing cube when giving david the power to morph.
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Other than that, I think it's just.. I dunno... tradition that an Andalite gives the power to morph....
On the other hand... maybe Andalites operate the cube using thought-speak.... The buffa-Chapman and the ant-Cassie might just be KASU....
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If someone with the morphing power needs to touch it, how did the Andalites use it when it was first built, and no one could morph yet?
-- J.P.
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There's probably another way too, so that the first person has morphing power, but that way's probably real complicated, and only andalite scientists know how to do it.
ahem? did you read everything I said?
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Yeah dude, I always wondered on these questions, too.
How is it that non-sentient creatures can seemingly automatically transfer upon contact, but sentient creatures seemingly require a morph-capable person to have transfer?!
Maaan, if we go into depths in the world of the Animorphs we'll be like Alice in Wonderland, picturing going down into the Yeerk Pool could be like going down the Rabbit hole.
Also, how big is the Morphing Cube?
To be big enough to be carried in the mouth of a wolf and a buffalo, light enough to be carried by an eagle AND fit 5 palms of human hands on each facet. What proportions would you guys imagine that would approximately be?
Are we talking Rubik's puzzle cube-sized or fist-sized?!
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I think a person with morphing ability has to hold it, then others kind of aquire the power just like they aquire DNA.
I always thought that too and it kinda made sense, but then #39 had to totally screw that up with the Buffa-Human and Ant-Cassie. Not that I hated the book or anything, but I thought it was a little dumb saying that anything that touches the box can get the power. Thought speak activation would have been the best method as it was only supposed to be used and given to members of the Andalite military. That would have made the box a lot safer if it fell into Yeerk hands.
The sort of have to focus on the box the same way you have to focus on a morph to morph it. The ant was concentrating on the Escafil Device because it was walking on it. ETC
That's a more realistic theory.
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maybe the box builds up a charge after a morph capable person has touched it, cause before the buffalo and ant touched it cassie had just touched it, and then once its been sitting for too long it loses it
i personally just think 39 was a kasu but whatever, we need something to fill our days lol
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I always thought that too and it kinda made sense, but then #39 had to totally screw that up with the Buffa-Human and Ant-Cassie. Not that I hated the book or anything, but I thought it was a little dumb saying that anything that touches the box can get the power. Thought speak activation would have been the best method as it was only supposed to be used and given to members of the Andalite military. That would have made the box a lot safer if it fell into Yeerk hands.
Yeah, you'd think they could have made it so only Andalites could use the power, it would have been so much safer...but then we wouldn't have Animorphs, would we? xD
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Yeah, you'd think they could have made it so only Andalites could use the power, it would have been so much safer...but then we wouldn't have Animorphs, would we? xD
Actually we'd still have the Animorphs because Elfangor gave them the power so he could have activated the device. David would have still happened because Ax could have activated it, same for the auxilary Animorphs (he may have voted against both ideas but he would have followed Jake's orders). Book 39 wouldn't have happened, but the Yeerks would sadly have still been able to use the cube as Visser Three has an Andalite body.
The Andalites should really have included a security code or something. Elfangor would have known the code so the Animorphs would still have happened.
maybe the box builds up a charge after a morph capable person has touched it, cause before the buffalo and ant touched it cassie had just touched it, and then once its been sitting for too long it loses it
i personally just think 39 was a kasu but whatever, we need something to fill our days lol
Build up a charge of what exactly? Morph energy? I guess it's possible. KA probably avoided going into detail on how it worked because she doesn't have a degree in advanced fictional alien technology. ::)
Book 39 was filler yes, but it can't be a KASU. She would have based the entire plot of a book on a KASU. Plus it can't be considered a KASU because nobody knows exactly how the cube works.
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Yeah, you'd think they could have made it so only Andalites could use the power, it would have been so much safer...but then we wouldn't have Animorphs, would we? xD
Actually we'd still have the Animorphs because Elfangor gave them the power so he could have activated the device. David would have still happened because Ax could have activated it, same for the auxilary Animorphs (he may have voted against both ideas but he would have followed Jake's orders). Book 39 wouldn't have happened, but the Yeerks would sadly have still been able to use the cube as Visser Three has an Andalite body.
The Andalites should really have included a security code or something. Elfangor would have known the code so the Animorphs would still have happened.
Oh yeah, I see what you're saying. I was thinking that if there was some lock on it to prevent other species than Andalites from using it, then it'd be foolproof...somethi ng like the Gleet Biofilter. That still wouldn't stop Visser Three from using it though, so I guess a security code would be the better choice after all.
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Warning: Extrapolated supposition ahead. Don't take my word for it, capisce?
Maybe morphing tech. comes from nano-tech. in the cells. The first morpher injected himself with the nanites (smaller-than-cell-robots that are self-replicating), then used the blue box to convey those nanites to the next person.
The box would act as a 'code', telling some of the nanites that is is okay to transfer to the new host. That way, they won't transfer through simple touch (thus preventing the acquired animals from becoming morphers).
Meh. Just a thought.
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Here's a question:
Where would you hide the Morphing Cube Escafil Device if you could?
I think Cassie was pretty creative with her hiding.
Surprisignly, I would hide it underneath the lowest draw on me desk. Never had any problems with anyone in my family ever finding my piggie cash stashed there. And it is big enough to store a something the size of a Rubik's cube.
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two things
one. in classic RAF i remember a promise by some one to give us blue boxes *glares around*
two. with my magic cards I'm the only one who touches them
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Here's a question:
Where would you hide the Morphing Cube Escafil Device if you could?
hmm...it'd depend on just how small it is. four inches doesn't really mean much to me. but if I knew it could be taken apart, I'd take it apart and hide each piece somewhere different.
if I didn't know, i'd hide the whole thing in the space behind my bed. You'd have to move the bed to put your hand back there.
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Hmm thats a good question.
In the tv show Dexter, he hides his important things inside of an airconditioner. I think thats a pretty good hideout, unless of course it breaks down... also, you can hide things in your VCR player as not many people would ever want to use it :P
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Hmm thats a good question.
In the tv show Dexter, he hides his important things inside of an airconditioner.
what? when was that?
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Hmm, I'd be very surprised if you watched this show, Morfowt.
Are you thinking of the same show? In one of the first episodes, Dexter puts the blood on a slide and then hides it in a box inside his airconditioner.
Basically any old electrical appliances are good hiding spots for the box, who'd think to look in an old tape player or whatever?
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ok...probably thinking of something else if there's blood in it. just forget I said anything...
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Where do people get the idea that an Andalite or someone morph-capable has to be touching it?
Elfangor held the box because he it was his and he was the only one who knew what it was;
Ax held the box for David because the Animorphs figured he knew how to handle it better;
Ax held the box for James and the gang because, well, leave-it-to-the-Andalite! :P
To become morphcapable anyone can just touch the box and concentrate on it.
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how would a buffalo or ant concentrate on the box?
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They probably both thought it was food so they were focused on it when they touched it.
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who knows? maybe David DID have the morphing power, just never acquired anything/used it until he 'got' it again from the Animorphs?
if i touched a random blue box, i certainly wouldn't think to morph. (well, maybe i would, not the average joe)
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I dunno about this one, guys.
It seems out of character for an intelligent Andalite to create a piece of tech that wouldn't have appropriate security.
Even if before the Law of Seerow's Kindness, I am sure they wouldn't want to have random animals crawling on some blue surface and morphing some other random creature.
Considering it's a piece of military tech and that nothing that was said about Escafil seemed to point at him being faulty and ill-adjusted, I'd have to go with the fact that the box wasn't designed to transfer a 'piece of technology' by the act of a plain touch.
And I am of the belief that K.A. WOULD HAVE mentioned SOMETHING HAD David had the power to morph all along prior to meeting the Animorphs. I mean, like, she would have dropped a line about him 'feeling a tickle' or something when he first grabbed the box or something. Plus he had that cat and the cobra, which would have fitted perfectly fine to this plot.
As cool as it sounds as a 'twist' to the story of the 'Judas-Animorph', I'm gonna boldly state that I think it's a 'no'.
If someone with the morphing power needs to touch it, how did the Andalites use it when it was first built, and no one could morph yet?
-- J.P.
An inventor invents and an invention is an invention, I guess. ::)
maybe the box builds up a charge after a morph capable person has touched it, cause before the buffalo and ant touched it cassie had just touched it, and then once its been sitting for too long it loses it
i personally just think 39 was a kasu but whatever, we need something to fill our days lol
Hahaha! Everything Duff said there sounds plausible to me. This smells like a K.A.S.U. to me, too.
The morph-capable person has morphing energy and the box could possibly tap into it to ignite and transfer. And yeah, I confess uni is making a maniac out of me, so I do need some sort of stimulation to preserve my mentality. Hehehehe.
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They probably both thought it was food so they were focused on it when they touched it.
then david just randomly thinking about the box would be enough to make him morphcapable, wouldn't it?
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Since when does anyone focus when they think randomly? :P
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Since when does anyone focus when they think randomly? :P
well okay not think randomly, thinking about what the box is or why anyone would use trained birds to get it.
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Yeah, you'd think they could have made it so only Andalites could use the power, it would have been so much safer...but then we wouldn't have Animorphs, would we? xD
Actually we'd still have the Animorphs because Elfangor gave them the power so he could have activated the device. David would have still happened because Ax could have activated it, same for the auxilary Animorphs (he may have voted against both ideas but he would have followed Jake's orders). Book 39 wouldn't have happened, but the Yeerks would sadly have still been able to use the cube as Visser Three has an Andalite body.
The Andalites should really have included a security code or something. Elfangor would have known the code so the Animorphs would still have happened.
Oh yeah, I see what you're saying. I was thinking that if there was some lock on it to prevent other species than Andalites from using it, then it'd be foolproof...somethi ng like the Gleet Biofilter. That still wouldn't stop Visser Three from using it though, so I guess a security code would be the better choice after all.
But Visser 3 might know the code via Alloran!