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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2011, 06:11:32 PM »
And as a response to the picture, yes I could imagine it. As long as his body was still suitable and useful then why not?
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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2011, 06:25:21 PM »
Lol, I really think the Yeerks would be willing to make an exception to their 'no cripples' rule for Vader.  :XD:  Hey, they made an exception for Taylor, didn't they?  The ear canal thing might be a problem, though.  I didn't know that.  But, well, Dracon beams could conceivably have a 'surgical' setting, right?

As for Darth Sion, I wasn't aware that he was that . . . inhuman?  Inorganic?  I can see that posing a barrier to the Yeerks, if his internal systems were altered enough.  After all, they can't infest Chee or Hawjabrans.  But those considerations have little to do with willpower and more to do with physical barriers.  So if his brain is still a mostly-intact organic sentient brain, then no, he isn't immune to Yeerk infestation no matter how scary he looks.  But if his brain was burned to a crisp like the rest of him, then that might be another matter.

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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2011, 06:29:52 PM »

Darth Sion IS human, and he has been said to be in great amounts of pain (no surprise), which, of course, feeds his rage, which is what the Sith thrive on. I can definitely see the Yeerks not wanting to infest him, though, because they'd have to tie themselves to all that pain. On the plus side, Sion cannot be killed unless his connection to the Force is weakened, and that all has to do with his strength of will. And don't even get me started on Nihilus...

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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2011, 06:31:29 PM »
I almost brought up grievious but then I realized he was killed in the clone wars. The force might not be a very useful tool to the yeerks. Sure using it for battle might work and persuasion could be used to get a few new hosts but its not really a weapon of mass destruction that the yeerks like
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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2011, 06:34:33 PM »
I can definitely see the Yeerks not wanting to infest him, though, because they'd have to tie themselves to all that pain.

Then explain Taxxon-Controllers, lol.

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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2011, 06:35:59 PM »
Point taken. :P

I just had an interesting thought: What if the Yeerks, in infesting the Jedi and Sith, actually bring balance to the Force? They are neither Sith or Jedi, and they are bringing a form of order. This is a really intriguing concept, when you think about.
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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2011, 06:47:17 PM »
It would be a kind of balance found in Jenga structure.
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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2011, 06:51:07 PM »
Lol. :D

But seriously, I just remembered something: Sion is, by all accounts, physically dead. He was able to sneak onto a Republic warship by not moving and (since he had no vitals) they assumed he was dead. I don't believe a Yeerk could infest him since he is, quite literally, a walking corpse, but Vader, Luke, and the Emperor are most assuredly still alive. :XD:
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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2011, 07:01:57 PM »
So what does that have to do with anything. That just makes him a better host
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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2011, 07:03:28 PM »
*slaps forehead* Cassie specifically stated in #9. The Secret that Yeerks cannot infest corpses, and Sion is one. He has no signals in his brain for a Yeerk to tap into. A Yeerk can no more infest him than they could a zombie. ::)

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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2011, 07:17:17 PM »
But obviously something in his brain is keeping him going. The force alone can;t be it. Also, by book nine cassie probably wasn't an expert on yeerk capabilities
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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2011, 07:22:46 PM »
It's only the Force keeping him together, nothing more. If he had had brain signals, the Republic soldiers wouldn't have brought him aboard the Harbinger. A Republic doctor clearly identified him on tape as being dead. On the other hand, we have never seen the Yeerks to have the ability to infest corpses, which, if they could, would mean they could just blast Earth into a cylinder and take over all the dead bodies with little delay or planning.
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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2011, 07:29:10 PM »
But most dead bodies decompose really fast. WIth the force holding him together taht wouldn't be a problem
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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2011, 07:30:43 PM »

He IS decomposing; didn't you see the picture? :P At best, you could describe him as being half-alive, half-dead, but that isn't too optimistic.

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Re: The Yeerks vs. the Galactic Empire
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2011, 09:21:18 PM »
Well, you have to keep in mind that Animorphs is an entirely sci-fi series, whereas when you start having re-animated corpses, things start straying into supernatural territory.  So all bets are off, really.

It's pretty much impossible, even theoretically, to keep a brain alive without a heartbeat.  The brain requires oxygen to function and think, which requires blood, which requires a heartbeat.  Even if you could use the Force to somehow animate the rest of your body without metabolism happening, your brain is still the part of you that controls your use of the Force, ergo, if it dies the whole thing falls apart.  Another possible explanation, however, is that his brain is not the source of his consciousness, but rather he possesses some kind of 'collective consciousness' comprised of the midi-chlorians in his blood.

So, supposing that his brain is somehow impossibly still alive although the rest of him is dead: the Yeerk could control his brain, and, assuming a Yeerk could make use of his powers (a question we can't really answer), the Yeerk could animate his body, same as he could.

Assuming, alternately, that his brain is dead too and his consciousness is spread out through his midi-chlorians: you'd have the same scenario as the Hawjabrans, a bunch of tiny brains spread throughout the body.  Thus, control would not be possible.