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Re: Most Hated Moments in Canon (Why, KA, Why?!)
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2011, 04:08:36 PM »
Twisted sense of morality those Pemalites had :P

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Re: Most Hated Moments in Canon (Why, KA, Why?!)
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2011, 04:41:16 PM »
Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

I'd like to go into the past, find the person that made that saying, and subject them to verbal and emotional torture.


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Re: Most Hated Moments in Canon (Why, KA, Why?!)
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2011, 05:39:25 PM »
Just hit him with a dictionary. It will be both ironic and morally crippling. Every time he says something he will have to look around and wonder if there was something he missed waiting to sneak up and bite him in the behind.

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Re: Most Hated Moments in Canon (Why, KA, Why?!)
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2011, 06:04:20 PM »
     This isn't a "hated moment", so much as a "confusing moment" in the series. In the Escape, where Edriss sees Marco on Submarine...Why didn't she wonder why he was there?
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Re: Most Hated Moments in Canon (Why, KA, Why?!)
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2011, 06:33:47 PM »
She assumed he was a controller, and the Yeerk controlling him had some kind of job. I'm not sure if Marco walked into the room she was in, or just stopped in front of the doorway and was spotted staring at her from the hall.


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Re: Most Hated Moments in Canon (Why, KA, Why?!)
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2011, 06:35:48 PM »
Edriss reads Eva's thoughts.

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Re: Most Hated Moments in Canon (Why, KA, Why?!)
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2011, 06:40:41 PM »
     But didn't she wonder WHY he was on the submarine? Would a Yeerk be assigned to a twelve year old and be expected to work when his host should be in school?
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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2011, 06:42:47 PM »
There probably should have been some questions asked. Why wasn't he in school or at his station? Maybe V1 just didn't really care, assuming the andalites wouldn't use a child morph for infiltration. She's not as paranoid as V3.


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Re: Most Hated Moments in Canon (Why, KA, Why?!)
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2011, 07:02:30 PM »
     She's not as thought as I initially believed her to be. A good Visser would have looked into that, especially if it was it's host's son.
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Re: Most Hated Moments in Canon (Why, KA, Why?!)
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2011, 07:09:56 PM »
And for Jake. Would it have really been hard to starve Tom's Yeerk out and have him fake a suicide? Switch his body with a Chee, bury it, then have the Chee come out and refill the grave? No one is the wiser. The Yeerks certainly wouldn't be suspicious if one of their own had to go away for four days, died, and its host committed suicide instead of returning to the city.
UGH! This is something that I always thought about too. I don't see why the Animorphs didn't hold Tom captive while the Yeerk starved, while the Chee, who were the ones who flew Tom back to the city, created a hologram of Tom to satisfy Jake and his parents. It's not like it would have even been the Chee who would have held Tom captive as the Yeerk died, so they wouldn't have violated their programing. Or I just don't see why at ANY point in the series the Animorphs couldn't have taken Tom hostage and had him "go missing"
or something and had him just live out with the Hork-Bajir temporarily. It just bothers me, I mean they were able to hold Jake hostage when he became a controller, Tom without morhphing powers would have been nothing. Plus after they starved out the Yeerk they could have given him morphing powers and I'm guessing he'd be a willing fighter against the Yeerks and could tell them about Yeerk pool entrances and all that. Same deal with other controllers. All of them already knew about the war, and having been controlled by the Yeerks I'm guessing a good deal of them would be interested in helping the Anis out.

The Animorphs' solution to Aftran; let her become a whale nothlit. Is that all they could come up with? Surely there must have been a better way. Seriously, how badass would it have been if Aftran had become an Animorph? We know that the Chee can produce Kandrona rays to keep a Yeerk alive within their own bodies, so... right, this is getting hypothetical and off topic...
I get what you're saying, but I think the problem with that was Aftran was part of the Yeerk Peace movement and I'm not sure how willing she'd be to go against and kill some of her own people. I'm guessing like what Jake said at the end of #29, she did her part in the war and was ready to live a different life.


I think the thing that bothered me most was kind of what I was mentioning above. How the Animorphs didn't give the morphing power and recruit former controllers to be Animorphs. Granted it'd be a little risky, and a lot of controllers would be going missing, but it'd put the Yeerks on their toes. Plus not only would they free someone, they'd also have someone who was familiar with what was going on and knew about the invasion, but could also help them out and be someone willing (assumably) to fight alongside them. Book #50, in particular, is where this really bothers me. This is where they still had a morphing advantage over the Yeerks and when looking for recruits they didn't necessarily have to resort to dragging more kids into the war. Going back to what they would have done when they captured a controller they also could have done something a little like Cassie did and gave the Yeerk a ultimatum and ask them if given the choice they'd give up their host if they wouldn't need to rely on the Kandrona and had different bodies. Depending on what kind of the answer the Yeerk would give, they could either starve them out or bring up the morphing/nothlit solution.

Another thing that bothered me was why one of the Chee didn't project holograms at the end of #53 of the auxiliary Animorphs, kinda like how Erek did in book #30 (I think?) of the Hork-Bajir dying and burning. Then while a Chee was projecting a hologram of them dying, the real auxiliary Animorphs could have gone along with Rachel. Granted this is all if they hadn't starved out Tom's Yeerk in the first place and the Yeerks still got the morphing cube. Okay, I better stop I'm blabbering.

I love how I keep thinking of all these scenarios as if they were real and not just a plot in a book series  ::) That said, I actually liked the ending good enough.
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Re: Most Hated Moments in Canon (Why, KA, Why?!)
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2011, 07:15:16 PM »
     The reason Tom remained a Controller? Simple. He had a part in the war to fulfill. He needed to get the box.
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Re: Most Hated Moments in Canon (Why, KA, Why?!)
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2011, 04:10:25 PM »
I think that throughout the series, the Animorphs didn't utilize the Chee's holographic abilities as much as they could have. Just think of the situations they could have avoided or the opportunities they could have had if they realized that they could essentially make the Yeerks see whatever they wanted them to see.

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Re: Most Hated Moments in Canon (Why, KA, Why?!)
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2011, 05:13:22 PM »
The series has a habit of making interesting side characters/groups, but not actually expanding much on them. Yes it's Animorphs, and most of the series focuses on them, but if you come up with some worthy side groups, then some focus should be on them sometimes. Use the holographic technology during infiltrations, use the Free Horks to pad out your forces on some larger assault missions. Actually use the YPM.


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Re: Most Hated Moments in Canon (Why, KA, Why?!)
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2011, 08:43:29 PM »
I would have to second David's return, an episode that is not only poorly conceived but depressing as heck IMHO.

Also alluded to above: I always hated the seemingly unnecessary sacrifice of the auxiliary Animorphs and Rachel herself. I never could believe that that was the best plan Jake and co. could come up with.

But the Cassie-goes-to-the-Outback entry is probably my least favorite part of canon.  Bleeccchhhh! haha.

And a sort of most hated omission, the lack of any resolution to the nature of Jake's experience in #41 The Familiar, and the entity he encountered, makes an otherwise interesting book a sort of a frustrating shaggy dog story. 

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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2011, 10:06:49 AM »
^That's being generous to #41, which is really just scraps of toilet-paper knitted together with words on them. Ughhhhh that book I hate it so much.