andalite female prince??

[Acalio-Laron-Jaham]

in #38 aloth or someone tells ax that there are female ariths in the military now.

So, when the female aristh graduates to a warrior, and then gets promoted to equivalent of a prince, what would she be called? 'prince' or 'princess'?

[Chad32]

That is IF they let the females get up that far. It's hard to tell, becuase the word Prince means different things for Andalites and Humans. Princess may not be the female word for Prince to andalites.

[RYTX]

I don't know if the first part is really true though.
Estrid remains are only example, and was the reference for that, but that was a ploy. There's no other example, and therefore may be no legitimacy to any other female being a true member of the military, aristh or otherwise

[Shock]

That is IF they let the females get up that far. It's hard to tell, becuase the word Prince means different things for Andalites and Humans. Princess may not be the female word for Prince to andalites.

for andalites, it seems like the word "prince" simply entitles the word "leader".

it would be the same as military commander, boss, or simply a person you follow.

from what i can tell, it doesn't have the entitlement of Royalty that humans attached to the world as i have only seen it used in military terms through out the series.

[adeon222]

I agree with RYTX... There's really no reason (since the war ended fairly soon after that incident) to think that females in the rigidly structured Andalite society could advance very far in the military...

Also, Estrid was an extremely talented and well connected Andalite female, but she was still only an Aristh... And look at what she had already overcome... Massive sexism not just in the military, but in the scientific community as well... It is unlikely that anytime in the near future (even with the necessities of the short-lived rest of the Yeerk conflict) Andalite females would branch out to the male-dominated spheres of society... (America took like, 75 years to make that kind of progress AFTER an organized women's rights movement began...)

[anijen21]

Prince is a rank, not a title. There are Lords and Ladies, Dukes and Duchesses, but there's no Captians and Captainesses or Majors and Majoresses. She'd just be a Prince.

[RYTX]

actually, I'm working under the impression that Estrid wasn't really an aristh, and that was all a lie. Personally I doubt there is any authorized and honest female involvement in the Andalite military
And now a thought:
Seeing as thought speak isn't really "words" it seems odd that a military rank was called prince in translation.
Maybe I'm stretching it since I'm reading LOTR, but I sense some more tolkien-isms at work: Princes were royalty, but also fighters and commanders of their armies.
Just putting it out there

[goom]

i think a female 'prince' title would work just fine, assuming one would achieve such status.

[VisserZer0]

It said that Estrid was made an "honorary" aristh. I think the only female aristh was Estrid because Andalites don't seem very keen on letting females get very involved in the military.

[AniDragon]

I agree with RYTX... There's really no reason (since the war ended fairly soon after that incident) to think that females in the rigidly structured Andalite society could advance very far in the military...

Also, Estrid was an extremely talented and well connected Andalite female, but she was still only an Aristh... And look at what she had already overcome... Massive sexism not just in the military, but in the scientific community as well... It is unlikely that anytime in the near future (even with the necessities of the short-lived rest of the Yeerk conflict) Andalite females would branch out to the male-dominated spheres of society... (America took like, 75 years to make that kind of progress AFTER an organized women's rights movement began...)

Weren't Andalite females traditionally scientists, though? I think I remember Aldrea mentioning something about that in HBC... That females were fairly common as scientist.

[RYTX]

That's probably true enough, Estrid's problem were likely greater than they might have been because: 1) She was young and 2) She was a genius.
Smart scientist is one thing. Woman, hell, really girl, you can out smart you may not make an old man very in a male centered society. Work with, not be out done by
But Estrid was young, uber-smart, and could probably beat up a few of the boys in her physics classes. She's a triple threat! Probably made life extra rough on her

[Phoenix004]

Yeah Prince didn't appear to have anything to do with royalty to them, it was simply a rank in their military system. Females had never been allowed in the military before, so they wouldn't have any reason for having a female equivalent word before then. Therefore, we can assume they would have kept the word Prince.

[Green armadillo ette]

Let's say hypothetically thought-speech was a spoken language because it is definitely a written one ( Jake says he saw symbols in Elfangor's fighter). In that case, someone could have screwed-up the translation or it could have been the next-closest-thing in English to the andalite's language. There are mentions of andalite words through out the series. So yeah it would be a female Prince.