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The alien archetype
« on: July 29, 2009, 08:30:17 PM »
I have noticed that ax's character is not entirley unique. This came to my mind when I was watching teen titans (I like stupid cartoons deal with it)when I noticed disticint similarities beetween Ax and Starfire. Mainly to do with food.

"You kids stay out  of here buy that crazy friend of yours a bottle of tobasco sauce if he needs it." "What is Tabasco? Tuh-bah-sco is it tasty and full of flavor?" -animorphs

"I quite enjoy these tangy yellow drinks." "Uh, starfire that's mustard." "Is there more?!"- teen titans

Mostly though the trade mark of the alien is the akward and hilarious.

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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2009, 08:37:16 PM »
Dude, Teen Titans is awesome. :P

But yeah, there is a sort of general alien 'persona' that authors seem to portray. I think it falls more under the category of commenting on humanity than anything else, though. Visser One makes commentary about how Hollywood is the most influential place in the world, Elfangor notes that people sticking white cylinders in their mouths is ridiculous when it makes them seriously ill. Ax treats advanced technology as a "game" and wonders if Big Wheels are weaponry.

When you have a character that is on the outside of humanity looking in, you'll have similarities across the spectrum. Imagine if you were a complete stranger to Earth and you walked in on a bunch of bipedal sentient beings who spent half their time eating, half their time starving themselves, half their time killing one another and the other half in front of the television?
(and yes, to quote Marco, I know that is too many halves)

Similarly, I think that as an "outsider" you would find some aspect of humanity to become fascinated with. Food seems to be the most obvious, since there is such a VAST variety of foods, but there are other aspects to marvel at as well.

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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2009, 08:48:56 PM »
I like stupid cartoons to teen titans was cool and this is an interesting thread
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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2009, 09:28:51 PM »
yeah I kind of see Ax as Mr. Spock with a food fetish now
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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2009, 10:10:53 PM »
food fetish sounds gross i just think he loved to eat
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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2009, 10:48:45 PM »
well that's what fetishes are!
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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2009, 10:59:55 PM »
no fetishes are sexual in nature its about pleasure and gratification not love
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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2009, 11:20:17 PM »
No, fetish does not mean sexual alone.  You are using two different meanings of the same word- preoccupation - in this case, Ax's preoccupation with food (Jenigen's intent) and the interpretation of her post.
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fetish (plural fetishes)

   1. Something nonsexual, such as an object or a part of the body which arouses sexual desire or is necessary for one to reach full sexual satisfaction.
   2. Something which is believed to possess, contain, or cause spiritual or magical powers; an amulet or a talisman.
   3. An irrational, or abnormal, fixation or preoccupation.
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I have found a few similarities in other books, now.  At the time I read Animorphs. Ax seemed original.  Is it possible that Ax set a standard that others are now borrowing from?


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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2009, 06:27:13 AM »
well its an archtype by definition its from a molde
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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2009, 12:12:49 PM »
I doubt that Ax set the standard. Food is a good Human thing for aliens to fixate on, since we're the only species on Earth that makes food just to enjoy it.


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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2009, 06:33:51 PM »
we're the only species on earth that do a lot of things
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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2009, 07:28:28 PM »
not have sex for pleasure dolphins and chimps do that to
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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2009, 08:18:34 PM »
oh well I was going to say like, use an economy and process natural resources and exhibit a deep curiosity of our natural world, but u know however u want to take it
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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2009, 09:58:00 PM »
How about bare our teeth to show happiness, instead of to scare or intimidate. We're about the only species that does that.


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Re: The alien archetype
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2009, 10:27:38 PM »
Only known species. . . .

I suscribe to the belief that we haven't discovered all the animal species on Earth yet. . . .


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