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Re: Thoughts in the End
« Reply #45 on: March 24, 2009, 09:34:22 PM »
He originally did not know she had amnesia. By the time he found out, it was too late to abandon her. Also, Tobias was so desperate for a loving parent, he was willing to grasp at any wisp of hope, no matter how small.

Why even have him find her again. Why even mention her again in the series?


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Re: Thoughts in the End
« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2009, 09:36:21 PM »
To put a different source of tension in Tobias' life, as well as answering some of his questions.

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Re: Thoughts in the End
« Reply #47 on: March 24, 2009, 09:49:10 PM »
Why even have him find her again. Why even mention her again in the series?
To tie up a loose thread. To add emphasis to Jake's loss of his parents. To make a point about parents' willingness to sacrifice themselves for their children, even if the relationship between them has been strained or nonexistent. And to nudge the Animorphs so that they'd be willing to pass on the morphing technology to others after the David mess.

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Re: Thoughts in the End
« Reply #48 on: March 25, 2009, 01:07:09 PM »
So what are the thoughts on how the Yeerks found the Valley in the final arc? I always figured if a Free Hork was taken, then his memory of how to get back would be erased. Are you saying it really took two years for just one Free Hork to be recaptured? Do you think that's realistic? Or do you wish the Valley would always be a sanctuary?


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Re: Thoughts in the End
« Reply #49 on: March 25, 2009, 04:23:10 PM »
I always saw it was inevitable. I just don't see how a random valley hidden by the Ellimist was found, and some random camp wasn't. I'm sure active searching wasn't stopped, so they should've been found relatively quickly.

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Re: Thoughts in the End
« Reply #50 on: March 25, 2009, 04:31:23 PM »
i was suprised the whole series whent by without the yeerks finding ax's scoop...

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Re: Thoughts in the End
« Reply #51 on: March 25, 2009, 04:54:30 PM »
Ax's scoop is said to be small and well hidden, all of its electronics hidden from detection, and the roof is collapseable to make it look like it isn't there. They do that whenever they leave.

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Re: Thoughts in the End
« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2009, 10:04:16 AM »
Ah. Didn't think about that one.

I wish KA had mentioned more about the Animorphs parents' endings. Something about Nora too. Did anyone here like her?
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Re: Thoughts in the End
« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2009, 03:03:58 PM »
I was neutral. I didn't dislike her, but I didn't root for her either. I would have liked to hear what Jake's parents thought of everything, especially since KA decided to kill Tom off. We got a good idea of Cassie's parents and Rachel's mother. Nothing from her Dad at all.


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Re: Thoughts in the End
« Reply #54 on: March 28, 2009, 06:24:00 PM »
I'd love to see how Rachel's mother's relationship with Jake is. I wish that was at least hinted at. Also, we didn't hear anything about Sarah and Jordan (Rachel's sisters) at all.

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Re: Thoughts in the End
« Reply #55 on: April 05, 2009, 07:07:41 PM »
it depends on how you see it. in some cases realisticaly that was the only way it could finish.
the cliffhangers even give the ending more depth.
it was a story about war and in war their can never truly be a happy ending

War can have a happy ending. Look at LOTR three movies all about war and then a happy ending. All the good war movies, brave heart, gladiator, have happy endings. in their own way. Personally i didnt like the ending because of what it was, the last i would hear of the animorphs.

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Re: Thoughts in the End
« Reply #56 on: April 10, 2009, 11:21:57 PM »
I don't think Cassie would have been able to outright kill Tom though. She'd flinch, and she'd be killed instantly, and her battle morph is a fraction the size of Rachel's. I still think Rachel was the best choice to die based on what I said before. I say most people here want Cassie to have been the one because she's the least liked in general.
Everyone just wanted to have seen Tobias happy in his meadow with Rachel, Jake and Cassie married, and Marco living the good life.

It doesn't happen that way when you put teenagers through a world-shattering war. It's not a "good" war like WWII, it was a vicious moral battle all along the way. (Even WWII was horrible for a lot of people in it) I will say the end did not satisfy me, but only based on the fact it was short, had a lack of detail, and had a rushed feel to it. It was well planned however, and I don't flat out disagree with it. I would have liked a little less of a cliffhanger, though.

There's a million other fiction books out there that end in a sappy and happy ending. That's why I like Animorphs, it's fairly close to what real people would do in thost situations.

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When I first read this ending I was either twelve or just barely thirteen, and I hated every book after they bailed to the camp. I was only kinda-maybe following the series out of "i've read over forty of these things" fan loyalty- I'd gone on to bigger and better (*ahem*WoT) books.

I went back and read the ebooks a few months ago and I have to say that I came away with a whole new appreciation of the series. I went in expecting to be wincing the whole way through and I discovered a lot of groan-inducing bad (briefly considered flying across the country to my mom's house just to burn my old copy of book 9 with evil hellfire) but a whole lot of "jesus-****-christ" awesome as well. If these things had been originally written for, say, the 18-24 crowd the series would have been mind-blowing.

However the awesomeness of this series has a lot to do with the fact that **** does **** up. I extraordinarily love the fact that things FUBAR completely at the end, because it's in keeping with the series. They got away with incredible odds that tipped the believability scale (fiction believability, anyway...) but when all hell broke loose into actual warfare they clung on and got their asses handed to them even with a very ambitious plan that used every ounce of luck they had.

And that, right there, was the epitome of the end- that ****ed-up of an ending? that was the best they could swing. They won, and that was the happiest ending they were gonna have.

And it's awesome.
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