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Re: What three races?
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2014, 03:17:05 PM »
I don't know if they made any propaganda or not. They threw Alloran under the buss for it, though if it had actually been successful I'm sure they would have made him a hero.


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Re: What three races?
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2014, 04:19:02 PM »
Maybe not propoganda. I don't think they wanted to advertise anything about the Hork Bajir in case anyone investigated too closely. Not to mention it was a pretty shameful defeat for the Andalites.

But I can totally see the Andalite High command telling other races (Or inquisitive Andalites) that as an excuse if they asked why there were so few Hork Bajir. Maybe some Andalite kid asked that in class when they were learning about the Hork Bajir and that's just the response the teacher was supposed to give, whether the teacher believed it was true or not.

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Re: What three races?
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2014, 09:11:49 PM »
I sort of loved that angle in the books that the Yeerks weren't exactly experienced at warfare and had only been doing it since around Vietnam.  Made it all a little more plausible, that humans have sort of evolved as fighters, and by this point it was all sort of picked up by osmosis, even 13-14 year old kids grasped the basics of guerrilla warfare and hit-and-run tactics.  Where the Yeerks (aside from the original Visser 1) were more about clumsy brute shows of force, just through inexperience.

And how the Andalites had been warriors for some time, but also had that prideful thing going on, they weren't really down-and-dirty do-whatever-you-have-to, Alloran aside, they sort of took the high road in the early books, until it all hit the fan and they got corrupted and desperate too.

A cool way to go with it, like humans might be technologically inferior, but we're basically really scary when backed into a corner and forced into fighting.

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Re: What three races?
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2014, 07:41:11 AM »
We are a warrior race. Given the right tools for the job, we can kick anybody's ass. I was in a previous discussion about why the Chee didn't just sabotage the kandrona generators, but given the Yeerks information on us they'd never just leave us alone. They needed to conquer us, or wipe us out, because if we were given ships to fight them, we'd have ended the war ourselves.


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Re: What three races?
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2014, 01:15:07 PM »
A cool way to go with it, like humans might be technologically inferior, but we're basically really scary when backed into a corner and forced into fighting.

Like pretty much any animal, when you think about it.  Anyone can shoot a lion from a distance, but being up close with a pissed off cornered lion is always a bad thing.  Suddenly, the whole series being about morphed animals makes sense.
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Re: What three races?
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2014, 07:27:56 AM »
Eh, really the morphing's the least awesomely-plausible thing about the books.  Yeah, a grizzly bear or a tiger are scary, but any goon with a big enough gun is in a position to not really be scared by one.  The morphing's awesome in terms of "getting into the heads of an animal and exploring that notion with the kid readers", but as an actual weapon the whole thing's pretty flawed.

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Re: What three races?
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2014, 07:45:07 AM »
I think that's why Hork-Bajir are rarely armed, and when they are there isn't a big fight scene involved.


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Re: What three races?
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2014, 01:51:33 PM »
I think my favorite was when he told the Animorphs that Andalites had never heard of Helmacrons. Your brother Elfangor made JOKES about them in TAC Ax!
When are the helmacrons mentioned in TAC I really don't remember that.

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Re: What three races?
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2014, 11:16:42 AM »
Just like with the Straam and the Mak, this is something that's mentioned early in the books that KAA doesn't really do anything with. As well as Alloran mentioning Yeerks being on the homeworld in book 8, and one Andalite saying he fought alongside Hork-Bajir in the war. Maybe the third race is the Onganchics. They have no homeworld, and one of their ships were taken by the Yeerks before they found the Hork-Bajir. That could be the third race. Still, it's not much.

He said Yeerks had infiltrated the Andalite Homeworld.

I took that to be a forshadowing of what we learn in Book 18 when we learn that there are Andalites who betrayed their race and were working with the Yeerks.