Richard's Animorphs Forum
Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Yorick Brown on July 15, 2008, 01:10:15 AM
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1) Marco (Simply the character that the reader could most relate to-and he made me laugh)
2) Ax (I loved his wide-eyed obsevations into human culture and his growing)
3) Rachel (A very multi-layered character as noticed in The Stranger and The Weakness)
4) Jake (Can't explain this one-just wasn't as interesting as the others)
5) Tobias (His pity parties bored me rather than moved me-crack a smile once in awhile)
6) Cassie (All her tree hugging got annoying at times)
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When I started reading, it was:
Cassie
Tobias
Marco
Rachel
Jake
Ax
Now it's:
Tobias
Marco
Ax
Rachel
Jake
Cassie
I used to really like Cassie. I was a major hippie when I started reading the books, and the idea of her being a talented morpher appealed to me. However, after a while, she just got on my nerves.
There was this one point in #25 that I think could have been a turning point for Cassie. That part where they had to eat the seals. They were all worried that Cassie would moralize to them about it, but she told them that no, survival had to come first. When I first read that, I thought it was the start of an evolution for her as a character.
However, after that it almost seemed as if her morals got even stronger, and she just got annoying. Perfectly wasted opportunity for character growth.
That's one of the main reasons why Cassie went from first to last on my list.
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1. tobias
2. ax
3. cassie
4. david (what? I do)
5. rachel
6. jake
7. marco
8. auxilaries.
none of them I hate. just some I like more than others.
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I don't really rank them. I like them all for different reasons.
One I will make mention of is Cassie. When I was younger, I didn't dislike her, but I didn't think much of her either. Reading the series again recently, however, I found that she was the one that all the others depended on; that when they were struggling she was the one who noticed and she was the one who helped them. She moved up in my opinion.
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Tobias
Ax
Rachel
Jake
Marco
Cassie
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Each one was a very important part of the group. I don't strongly dislike any of them.
1)Marco: He's the one I relate to the most. He's funny, clever, and the one I'd probably be the most like if I was in the group.
2)Tobias: I can kind of relate to the loner aspect of Tobias. I don't have it as hard as he does, though. Even without the being a nothlit part.
3)Ax: Ax is one of the two funniest characters, and I adore humor. The fact that he's an alien is amusing and interesting. I don't really blame him too much for keeping information from the group in the very beginning, or being tempted to take orders from Andalite superiors later in the series. It's a reminder that, even though he's part of the group, he's also an Andalite. That is his burden.
4)Jake: I once took a quiz that said I was somewhat like Jake. He's got a big cross to bear, but he's one of the strongest links in the group. They look to him as a leader, and everyone but Ax has some personal connection to him in one way or the other before the series begins.
5)Rachel: One side is a warrior woman, and one side is a mall rat who just wants a normal life. I think she is one of the more extreme characters, and is somehwat interesting.
6)Cassie: My least favorite, because she lets emotion and morals rule her too much. I don't have a high standard of morals, and would rather focus on getting the job done and surviving. Rather than worry about comparing morphing sentient life to Yeerk infestation, or handing over the escafil device unconditionally to the Yeerks and hoping something positive comes from it.
Final Note: It seems Cassie isn't that popular around here.
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1. Marco
2. Cassie
3. Ax
4. Jake
5. Tobias
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6. Rachel
Rachel is the only one of the cast I really don't care for. Her development wasn't interesting to me at all. I think Marco is the most human of all the characters, Cassie is the most confusing, Ax is hilarious, Jake is the easiest to sympathize with (for me) and Tobias, who used to be my favorite, is just fairly cool.
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Final Note: It seems Cassie isn't that popular around here.
and it seems Marco is pretty popular.
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Final Note: It seems Cassie isn't that popular around here.
and it seems Marco is pretty popular.
Indeed. To top it off, those two are pretty oposite of each other. Coincidence? Mayhaps. Mayhaps not.
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My "ranking" of them pretty much changes depending on what I'm reading...Now, anyway. My top is definitely Marco, just because I can relate to him the most.
I was always surprised by Cassie being an unpopular character. Her morals were basically the reason I liked her at all.
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Man, I don't think I could rank them. Marco is my favorite though.
Final Note: It seems Cassie isn't that popular around here.
Yeah I noticed that. I didn't really like her when I first read the books, but I've been re reading them and sorta understanding her more.
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Jake
Cassie
Marco
Rahcel
Ax(his books were boring)
Tobias(His books were even more boring)
I hate books where the battle morphs aren't used in a big battle and tht's been a lot of Tobias' books
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I did think Cassie wanting to save baby skunks in book nine was cute, though. She almost became a nothlit from falling asleep in morph, but it was still cute.
@Blue22: You thought Ax's books were boring? Boring how? I guess likeing big battles is cool, but there can't be big battles like that in every book. Otherwise they would become plain.
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@Blue22: You thought Ax's books were boring? Boring how? I guess likeing big battles is cool, but there can't be big battles like that in every book. Otherwise they would become plain.
I've only read two of Ax's books(which is another reason I ranked him so low) and they were almost as boring as Tobias'
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Each Animorph was important and each of them rocked. I don't dislike any of them. But here's my list, based on personality.
1. Rachel
2. Jake
4. Ax and Tobias (It's a tie, I can't choose one over the other)
5. Cassie
And, here's the list, based on which POV's I enjoyed most.
1. Jake
2. Ax
3. Marco and Tobias
4. Rachel and Cassie
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Jake - I tended to relate to him the most. I get picked to be leader of things in just about everything I do with groups much to my dismay.
Tobias - Was my favorite character early on until about book 16 when Jake attacks the yeerk mansion.
Marco - To this day some of his jokes still make me laugh. He was a really deep character and one of the more 3-D I guess is the word I'm looking for.
Rachel/Ax - I liked to read from their point of views and they both did interest me but I didn't like them as much as the others above.
Auxillaries - I actually wish they weren't part of the story to begin with. It just seemed wrong to me to introduce new characters, no matter how minor, that late in the story.
Cassie - I didn't agree with her opinions at least 90% of the time. I say her purpose in the group and I did agree when Jake would defer to her to make calls because you definitely needed to keep the group from getting completely gun-ho like Rachel.
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Rachel - she's strong and brave and doesn't let anyone control her.
Jake - he's the responsible leader type that pulls it all together.
Cassie - I like her because she is a pacifist, and tries to end arguments without violence.
Marco - I really liked his humor but sometimes he went too far. I know he had his reasons, but still.
Ax - I like Ax. But his attitude towards handicaps made me not like him as much. Ax and Rachel are similar, but I actually think Ax is a tad bit more ruthless than Rachel. I think in one of the books he was going to drop a bomb on the Yeerks but it would kill lots of other people, too. And that's something I don't think Rachel would ever do, not even to Andalites.
I don't really dislike any of them either, but you know...
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Tobias-First character I met, interesting live, and history. Other then the pity parties in books 3 and 33, totally awesome
Marco-Funny, clever, efficient. nuff said
Ax/Jake/Rachel- This three always tie for me. Ax is funny, but for so long is an outsider, and is too often working for and against the group all at once. Jake is cool and everything but beeches about leadership way too much. Rachel ranges between inspirationally bold to complaining about everyone thinking she's insane. too much
Cassie-Why too whiny, plus she gets to be the special one: estreen, subtemporily grounded, all that jazz, no, not whiny Cassie, way too annoying
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"...plus she gets to be the special one: estreen, subtemporily grounded, all that jazz..."
I thought I was the only one who noticed that! It really annoyed me how Applegate tried to make Cassie some special, almost angelic figure by making her fastest morpher, the most beautiful when morphing, able to stop alternate timelines and being the smartest animorph
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whoa whoa whoa. back up. when was it stated she was the smartest animorph? In terms of tactics and strategy, marco is better. In just plain knowledge, ax is best. how is she smartest?
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whoa whoa whoa. back up. when was it stated she was the smartest animorph? In terms of tactics and strategy, marco is better. In just plain knowledge, ax is best. how is she smartest?
Ax only appeared to be smarter than the Animorphs because he was an Andalite. He was probably above average in Andalite terms, but he wasn't like Estrid or anything.
Marco is probably the smartest, but I think that all of the Animorphs did well in school with the exception of Cassie. Cassie probably got decent grades but it did mention her bad math grades a few times.
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out of the 6 of them, ax is still smartest in general knowledge.
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1) Tobias - (I dunno, something about tortured souls and loners gets to me ;) Plus the guy is so loyal and caring, and suffered so much)
2) Marco/Rachel - (can't decide; Marco has the best lines while Rachel is just awesome)
3) Ax - always stuck between a rock and a hard place yet still makes the best of it. Not to mention he's also extremely loyal and his books are always hilarious
4) Jake - a tad boring
5) Cassie - too hypocritical and judgmental but gets the best treatment in the books ???
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1:Marco ;D
2:Ax :D
3:Rachel ;)
4:Tobias :-\
5:Jake :(
6:David :crazy2:
7:Auxiliaries >:(
8:Dog S***
9:Cassie :explode:
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you hate cassie more than the auxilaries? do you hate cassie that much?
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you hate cassie more than the auxilaries? do you hate cassie that much?
More and the auxilaries AND David. That's hard to believe.
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Now that's some serious Cassie hatin'!
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Okay why does everyone hate her. I kinda hate her and I don't know why.
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you hate cassie more than the auxilaries? do you hate cassie that much?
More and the auxilaries AND David. That's hard to believe.
well hate cassie more than david is sort of understandable (well it is to me) if you don't like cassie. after all they're ranking is pretty close. cassie's only on top because I like her.
Okay why does everyone hate her. I kinda hate her and I don't know why.
I don't know. I think only cassie-haters know why.
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I think people relate to Rachel more than Cassie. They prefer Rachel kicking Ass to Cassie kissing Ass in her love everyone thing. I mean, she was kinda lame a few times.
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Okay why does everyone hate her. I kinda hate her and I don't know why.
Because she was whiny?
Because she was hypocritical?
Because she had all this strange insight as an anomaly that others lacked?
Because she was foolishly naive, recklessly optimistic and yet obviously favored for it?
Or who knows, maybe we're all just a little racist and can't stand that she's the darkest one in the group? ::)
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I think people relate to Rachel more than Cassie. They prefer Rachel kicking Ass to Cassie kissing Ass in her love everyone thing. I mean, she was kinda lame a few times.
I can't relate to Rachel at all and I don't see how the average reader could. Not too many people I know would take a suicide mission happily or stab someone with a fork.
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I can sort of relate to rachel, but not as much as tobias, ax, cassie, or david (yes I said david).
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Why did you think she was hypocritical, RYTX?
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Or who knows, maybe we're all just a little racist and can't stand that she's the darkest one in the group? ::)
That is exactly it! Doesn't KA know the darkies are supposed to die first? The only two that really cared for Cassie were the scitzo chick and the Jew![/SARCASM]
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^Lovely :P
Anyway, maybe hypocrisy isn't the right would for it, but constantly saying, "this is wrong, I hate this, we can't do this" and then doing it anyway. Dude!! There are ways around the fight. Hate is a strong word, and a strong emotion. It's like brocolli. You don't hate brocolli, the only person I've ever seen truly hate brocolli is stewie griffin. You may not like it, you may seek it off your plate, you may whine about having to eat it. But you do anyway, and there is no real sense of hate for it. Where was I? Oh, yeah. Plus she tries to give, this Animorphs life stuff, it isn't for me. Bull-schivick, I give five point to Aftran for nailing her on that one. That's not something you give up.
Anyhoo, hypocritic may not be the best word in this example, but it falls on the right line
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I think people relate to Rachel more than Cassie. They prefer Rachel kicking Ass to Cassie kissing Ass in her love everyone thing. I mean, she was kinda lame a few times.
I can't relate to Rachel at all and I don't see how the average reader could. Not too many people I know would take a suicide mission happily or stab someone with a fork.
I'd like to think that I'm an average reader (not sure what other type of reader I could be) and I can relate to her a bit. More empathize than relate though. Not too many people I know would be brave and selfless enough to take a suicide mission to save the world.
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you hate cassie more than the auxilaries? do you hate cassie that much?
Because as far as I'm concerned, Cassie is to blame for Rachel's Death.
If She hadn't prevented Jake from killing Tom, the Yeerks wouldn't have gotten the Efascil Device.
And, to quote the "things the animorphs would never say" topic, I get tired of her tree-hugging bull****.
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you hate cassie more than the auxilaries? do you hate cassie that much?
Because as far as I'm concerned, Cassie is to blame for Rachel's Death.
If She hadn't prevented Jake from killing Tom, the Yeerks wouldn't have gotten the Efascil Device.
And, to quote the "things the animorphs would never say" topic, I get tired of her tree-hugging bull****.
I cast blame more on Eric than Cassie for Rachel's death. Her job was to make sure Tom wasn't taken. That the Yeerk didn't get away. If the Blade Ship was shot down, Rachel may have not been needed.
Of course, this goes back to there being several ways of writing the ending to realistically allow all the main characters we all know and love to live through the war. And have reasonably normal lives afterwards.
But I also hold it against Cassie for giving the box to the Yeerks. The general idea of letting Yeerks become nothlits to escape the war was an ok idea, but unconditionally giving the escafil device to them was stupid.
I didn't list the auxilaries in my first post, but I'd probably tie them with Cassie. I didn't really know enough about them to strongly like or dislike them. I might have even put them above Cassie, just because I didn't have any negative feelings against them.
David would be below Cassie, though.
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Well, Erek not being able to shoot down the blade ship might have been accidental, but Cassie's choice was an entirely concious decision.
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Wow yall really can't stand Cassie! her and Jake were my favorites
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what's wrong with hugging a tree?
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nothing, to an extent. Cassie's biggest crime was preventing Jake from killing Tom
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Could people explain that scene in The Ultimate for me?
Explain how, Tom got ahold of the box and they couldn't steal the box without killing him.
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Personally, It's been a while since I have seen the book
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Could people explain that scene in The Ultimate for me?
Explain how, Tom got ahold of the box and they couldn't steal the box without killing him.
I stopped in my tracks.
Because there stood Tom, unsteady, blood dried and streaked on his face.
Clutching the blue box. And a Dracon beam.
His eyes were wild. They darted toward Visser One. I imagined what Tom was
thinking. Whoever had the morphing cube held the future of the planet in his
hands.
Why whould he hand that over to Visser One?
Tom ran.
I followed him to the edge of the ramp. Saw a pair of eyes gleaming in the dark
below me. A crouched body, black and orange.
Jake!
He watched as Tom staggered past. Then padded after him. His paws nearly silent.
Again, I followed. Into the surrounding woods. Beyond sight of the school. Barely
keeping Jake, the silent, bloody beast, in sight.
Still, Tom must have sensed something. Because suddenly he looked over his
shoulder. Turned.
And fired.
The Dracon beam singed Jake’s shoulder! But he kept moving forward. Toward
Tom.
“Back off!” Tom screamed. “I mean it, I’ll kill you!”
Jake took another step forward.
Tsseeeew!
Tom fired again. The shot hit Jake in the back leg. He fell heavily.
Tom took off running. Sure that Jake would not, could not, follow.
But Jake lifted the tiger’s seven-hundred-pound body on three legs and started
after his brother. Into the shadows. Into the darkest place Jake had ever been. The
place where he would have to kill his brother. Or be killed by him.
Suddenly, I remembered my father’s face. His voice. “Is what you’re doing
humane?”
No matter which way it went between Jake and Tom, I would lose Jake.
Because if Jake had to kill Tom, he’d never be the same. He would cross whatever
line it was that separated us from them.
And I was pretty sure there was no crossing back.
I ran ahead into the dark. Followed the trail of Jake’s blood.
Tom crashing through the woods ahead of me.
Soft, irregular thudding. Jake.
Stalking his brother. Prepared to kill him. For what?
For a morphing cube. For…
It wasn’t worth it.
Suddenly, I knew the truth.
I reached the clearing where they both stood.
Tom was out of breath. Staggering.
Jake was only a yard or two behind him.
Tom turned. Lifted his arm. Aimed his weapon.
“I’ll kill you, Jake,” he said, voice ragged. “I will.”
Jake snarled. Crouched. Prepared to spring.
That’s when I shot forward and closed my jaws over Jake’s uninjured back leg.
Clamped down.
Jake roared. Turned on me. Smacked at my head with his paw. The blow sent me
sprawling. Claws raked deep gashes in my side.
But it was worth it. The pain, everything.
I’d done what I had to do.
I’d made the sacrifice.
Tom disappeared into the night.
Jake and I lay there, panting with pain and fatigue.
We had nothing to show for this fight. Except that we were alive to fight another
day.
And tomorrow, Jake could face himself in the mirror.
taken directly from the e-books
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Could people explain that scene in The Ultimate for me?
Explain how, Tom got ahold of the box and they couldn't steal the box without killing him.
He had a Dracon beam with him, but I think the whole thing was pretty weak. A wolf should be maneuverable enough to exaust Tom, grab the weapon, and take the box.
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See what I mean? Cassie's a F****** traitor
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But Jake lifted the tiger’s seven-hundred-pound body on three legs and started
after his brother. Into the shadows. Into the darkest place Jake had ever been. The
place where he would have to kill his brother. Or be killed by him.
Suddenly, I remembered my father’s face. His voice. “Is what you’re doing
humane?”
No matter which way it went between Jake and Tom, I would lose Jake.
Because if Jake had to kill Tom, he’d never be the same. He would cross whatever
line it was that separated us from them.
For a morphing cube. For…
It wasn’t worth it.
Suddenly, I knew the truth.
I’d done what I had to do.
I’d made the sacrifice.
Tom disappeared into the night.
Jake and I lay there, panting with pain and fatigue.
We had nothing to show for this fight. Except that we were alive to fight another
day.
And tomorrow, Jake could face himself in the mirror.
Thanks for posting that. So the parts I left and also the lines I bolded are the reasons Cassie let Tom have the cube, IMO of course.
What do you guys think?
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nothing new. I already know that.
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Cassie should have lunged for Tom instead of Jake. Just rip the weapon away from him, and cover him with her body. She made the wrong move, and betrayed Jake. She allowed her emotions to cloud her judgement, and it kept her from seeing clearly.
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*cough*F******TRAITOR*cough*
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I don't think that's realistic.
Then what would happen?
A tiger and a wolf drag Tom away and strave out the Yeerk while they're friends are still in a fight, even if that somehow worked that just means Jakes whole world is twisted as he regains his brother, and puts his parents at greater risk.
Personally I think she should have let him killed the slug, but then again, if it were my brother, I'd be glad she stopped it
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I couldn’t explain. Because I didn’t understand it myself. All I knew was that letting
Tom take the morphing cube had seemed absolutely the right thing to do.
And something still told me I was right.
That was the last part of the book. Before those lines, it seemed like her reason was to protect Jake.
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I don't think that's realistic.
Then what would happen?
A tiger and a wolf drag Tom away and strave out the Yeerk while they're friends are still in a fight, even if that somehow worked that just means Jakes whole world is twisted as he regains his brother, and puts his parents at greater risk.
Personally I think she should have let him killed the slug, but then again, if it were my brother, I'd be glad she stopped it
Taking the box back would have been a little more important at that second than capturing Tom. It probably wouldn't be possible with Jake being injured, but maybe calling a retreat, and having Marco or someone drag Tom with them as they left.
But mainly they should have made sure the box was safe and out of Yeerk hands.
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*cough*F******TRAITOR*cough*
lol I didn't think of her as a complete traitor, but it would've helped if her reasoning at the time was "Something tells me that the Yeerks will be weakened if they got the box, Taxxons would join us and Visser One would be weakened" instead of "I'm going to lose Jake and things will never be the same again!"
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and how the hell does that make sense ???
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and how the hell does that make sense ???
lol sorry do I make no sense?
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Well as bad as all that was, you can't deny that it didn't eventually help their cause. The Taxxons becoming allies, the Yeerks surrendering to become nothlits, etc...
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True, but it still cost rachel her life
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the alternative might be worse, though
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Hm what would the alternative be? (I've wondered about that before)
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the alternative might be worse, though
like what? You're saying that it's easier with the yeerks, who outnumber you by millions, having all of your powers? besides this is getting kinda off-topic :sign18:
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A little good came from it, but that didn't outweigh the bad. Any good that came from doing that could have also come from giving the power to Yeerks in a safer way. Like offering it to the Hork-Bajir controllers that the free Hork-Bajir captured. Or something like that. Using a controlled situation.
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the alternative might be worse, though
like what? You're saying that it's easier with the yeerks, who outnumber you by millions, having all of your powers? besides this is getting kinda off-topic :sign18:
how would I know? that's why I used the word might. it's a possibility. maybe tom would've killed jake. nobody knows for sure.
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Controller with a Dracon Beam vs. A tiger? It wouldn't be a match
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ever heard of luck?
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Ever heard of backup?
or Probability?
The only way Jake would have lost is if he hesitated about killing his brother, which I honestly think he was past doing
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isn't probability the same as luck?
a controller in hiding could've shot jake.
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either way, would it matter? I'm sure Jake could take 2 controllers :sign18:
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yeah if jake knew about the second controller.
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:sign18:
My list:
1. Tobias
2. Marco/Rachel -- a tie, I couldn't tell which I liked better, but they were both for different reasons.
3. Ax
4. Cassie - I still love her, don't get me wrong. She had the most soul.
5. Jake
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Its hard to rank the Animorphs... I just love them all in unique ways.... :(
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Simply put:
1. Tobias
2. Rachel
3. Marco
4. Ax
5. Jake
6. Cassie
Oh and probability and luck are not the same
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what's the difference?
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what's the difference?
Quickly:
Probability: the chance that something will happen without regard to actual outcome
Luck: pure chance occurence regardless of likelihood
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I honestly don't understand the difference yet.
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It's fairly pronounced.
One depends on the outcome the other doesn't. One deals with odds, the other doesn't.
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ok...sort of understood.
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My rank from favourite to least favourite.
1)Rachel,
2)Tobias,
3)Ax,
4)Jake,
5)Marco and
6)Cassie.
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That's a tough question, because I like Rachel and Tobias equal...
1. Rachel (She is a very extreme character, she is split in these two halves, she is the warrior that would do everything to win the war, bur on the other side she is a very affectionate character, especially at the beginning of the series, and that is what I love so much in this character.)
2. Tobias (He is the character I feel most related to because I was a long time a bully magnet to and so I can understand his feelings in the beginning. And I think he is a really strong character before Rachel dies and I like this very much)
3. Marco (He's so funny and very intelligent but also pretty ruthless and that's a really interesting combination)
4. Ax (He is also very funny and I loved his books)
5. Jake (I never liked him very much, although I know how hard it must have been for him to be the leader but I always thought he was a but boring)
6. Cassie (Never liked her. She was way to morally and I really hated that she was always right. That bothered me really much)
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then:
- tobias
- cassie
- rachel
- jake
- ax
- marco
now:
- rachel*
- tobias*
- ax
- marco
- jake
- cassie
*i'm on the fence between liking tobias or rachel more, so i flipped a coin.
this seems to be pretty close to a lot of others' lists.
I used to really like Cassie. I was a major hippie when I started reading the books, and the idea of her being a talented morpher appealed to me. However, after a while, she just got on my nerves.
ditto. and it doesn't help that quite a few of her books were my least favorites in the series (buffahuman, kangaroo cassie etc.)
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1. Ax
2. Jake
3. Rachel
4. Marco
5. Tobias
6. The Auxiliaries
7. Buffa-human
8. Cassie
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The buffa-human is an Animorph...? 0_o
1. Tobias
2. Rachel
3/4. Ax
3/4. Marco
5. Jake
6. Cassie
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The buffa-human is an Animorph...? 0_o
Not really, but in my brain he was more of an animorph than Cassie. :P
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1. Rachel
2. Marco
3. Ax
4. Tobias
5. Jake
6. Cassie
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1. Marco: Funny, loved his character, complex, and his books were often my favorites.
2. Ax: Several times he cracked me up. I also loved many of his books.
3. Rachel: Favorite of the girls. I thought she had the best morphs. Sometimes she got a little too violent though and she got a few goofy books.
4. Tobias: Liked the character though sometimes he whined a little too much for my taste. I also didn't like that he never got a battle morph after getting his powers back.
5. Cassie. She was my favorite when I first read the series. She loved animals and knew a lot about them. However, sometimes her moralizing gets on my nerves. It's not so much that that is a bad thing, it's just that sometimes she makes a moral issue when there is not even one there. I think KA using Cassie as her voice was a mistake. Cassie couldn't really develop or grow because KA had to be right. It would have been better if she had used one of the Chi instead. Cassie had some very goofy books as a result.
6. Jake. Ok I don't hate Jake. Compared to the others though I just found him boring. I usually dreaded when a Jake book was going to be released because those were the ones that I had the most trouble getting through. I will say that he was the best choice for the leader.
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1.- Jake: He is as human as everyone but has enough b***s to get things done and not get killed by remorse (almost but not all the way). He is the best choice for a leader, I mean he was brave and mature enough to understand that a life, even his brothers, wasn´t worth the whole world!!!
2.-Marco: Made me lol so hard and his conflict with visser 1 and his father made him a deep character.
3.- Rachel/Ax: Not so fave, Rachel was brave and everything but being so crazy doesn´t appeals to me, and Ax man is plain hilarious, but lacks depth and is (obviously) alien to the group.
4.- Cassie/Tobias: Three hugging and self pity get old way too fast. I hated the way Tobias was always complaining about his life. As for Cassie, not beign willing to kill in a war is lame, and the last nail in her coffin is the fact she let Tom scape with the cube.
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I've probably posted here before, but I can post again.
Marco: He's funny, smart, and overall a good character. He can be ruthless, but in their situation sometimes ruthlessness is needed.
Tobias: This is probably the closest character to what kind of person I am. I was the dork who always got picked on, and if I got powers I would want to use them. He was one of the most willing to fight because it gave him a purpose in life. Now my life isn't as bad as his, and I wouldn't like to get superpowers just to find out the world was being invaded by alien parasites, but I related to him somewhat.
Ax: also funny in a different way, and pretty cool. His conflict over loyalties can get in the way when his people are involved, but to me it's understandable.
Rachel: Quite the interesting character. Brave, confident, but also compassionate. I always believed if anyone would come out of this war more or less ok, it would be Rachel, but obviously some disagreed. Including the author.
Jake: Jake is low mostly because he's bland. He's the everyguy, and while I don't have any problems with him, I'm not highly interested in him either.
Cassie: Down at the bottom for holding too tightly to what I believe are childish morals. She's more of a loose cannon than Rachel is. During book 29 she chooses herself over the world, and in the final arc she makes a huge mistake then makes excuses and hopes for the best instead of just taking the blame and admitting what she did was really stupid.
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Hmm, this is tough. I didn't and still don't actively dislike any of the Anis, although I do find some of them more compelling than others. All of them were necessary to the fight and I seriously believe that had any of them died during the course of the books, it would have been game over.
Marco: I pretty much love everything about him. Including (and possibly because of) his mean/ruthless streak. I liked how he brought levity to even the darkest situations. Out of all of them, Marco had the strongest (IMO) reason for not wanting to fight - but he did anyway, which is really brave. I thought and still think that out of all the Animorphs, Marco received the best treatment in terms of character development and I always looked forward to his books, poo always seemed to hit the fan when it was his turn in the rotation, LOL.
Cassie: Despite being so different from Marco, I thought they were two sides of the same coin. Cassie had a real mean/manipulative streak and I thought that was an interesting contrast to her predominantly compassionate nature. I'd argue that she was the unofficial second in command...in retrospect especially, it's quite apparent how much Jake relied on her opinion and looked to her before deciding whether or not to go through w/ something. I also appreciated how she continued to fight despite being a pacifist...her moralizing got extremely grating and frankly, she was hard to like towards the end of the series, but at the same time, I blame the ghostwriters for dropping the ball on her character. In the first half of the series Cassie was a lot more humorous, and wasn't nearly as self-righteous. I always thought it was cool how she'd often be the one to come up with the plans despite not wanting to fight in the first place (just like Marco).
Jake: I know a lot of fans found him boring but I couldn't disagree more. I think Jake was an amazing character, from the beginning to the end of the series. Here you have this regular kid with what seems like the picture perfect life, when in actuality he's basically in a living nightmare: his brother is a slave, his parents are totally oblivious, and the fate of the Earth (possibly the universe) is on his shoulders. Out of all the Anis, Jake was the biggest wildcard, IMO. He was the least predictable in terms of his decision-making...just when you think he'd go one way, he'd decide on something completely different, which was realistic considering the evolution of his character. On an emotional note, I liked that despite being chosen unanimously as the leader, he was so deeply insecure, which was most apparent during his own narrations. The Jake books were not always as action packed but they always made me wonder how the hell he'd be able to live a normal life if he survived the war. I guess we all saw how that turned out. :(
Ax: I like Ax a LOT, especially earlier in the series, but to be honest, I didn't make a huge effort to get a hold of his books later in the series. I loved reading about the world through his eyes and I appreciated how he philosophical he got when it came to the heavier issues. His viewpoints really made me think.
Rachel: At the beginning, Rachel was probably my favorite, but like Cassie, I think her character suffered greatly at the hands of the ghostwriters. Just like Cassie's over the top moralizing, Rachel's violent nature got way too hamfisted for me. Rachel was definitely the bravest, but IMO, it was never b/c she was blindly reckless. The ghostwriters disagreed with that apparently, which is why I often found myself rolling my eyes at some of the truly stupid risks Rachel would take. I just think she lost most of her complexity by the time the last few books came around.
Tobias: I know he's last on my list, but I don't hate him at all. I just don't think he's nearly as interesting as so many fans find him, heheh. On paper, his story is probably the most interesting, his character just never really struck a chord with me. Maybe it's b/c I couldn't relate to him being bullied, the outsider, etc...his narration was frequently too emo for my tastes. I did find myself agreeing with him a lot when they would all debate whether or not a certain tactic would be justified. He was like the perfect balance between Marco and Cassie in that way.
tl;dr I know. I seem to have a lot of feeling on this topic. ;)
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I actually rather like Cassie. She really kept the Animophs together and made sure that they were not just a group that sets to kill people but a group that sets out to kill certain people. I believe that she kept up morale. Without that, the Animorphs would have likely just done themselves in.
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Jake
Ax
Cassie
Marco
Rachel
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1. All Animorphs save one
2. Every other character in the series
3. Cassie
But seriously:
The ending notwitstanding:
1. Marco (the comic relief)
2. Tobias
3. Rachel
4. Ax (had some great moments but overall...eh...)
5. Jake
6. Cassie (boring, preachy, annoying...I could go on)
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Tobias: Has a moral core without being overly annoying like Cassie. I also found his plight to be far more interesting than any of the others.
Marco: By a fairly wide margin the character who (to me anyway) undergoes the most interesting transformation throughout the series. His difficulties throughout the series were also compelling. I found myself enjoying the books narrated by him more, on average, than most of the other characters, and not because they necessarily had better story lines. I enjoyed his perspective and narrative "voice" more than others.
Jake: The prototypical tortured leader, but the one who bore the brunt of the difficult decisions to a far greater extent than the other characters for the most part. I always liked him.
Rachel: Honestly, I didn't like this character all that much, personally. She definitely had her moments but for the most part I found her to be cold, bloodthirsty, and without compassion or sympathy. She saw everything as completely black and white.
Ax: Arrogant and irritating. I actually enjoyed the books he narrated for the most part and found the character interesting and at times compelling, but I didn't like him personally.
Cassie: What can I say that hasn't already been said. Honestly, I wouldn't really have a problem with the moralizing if Cassie's character wasn't such a one trick pony in that regard. Every book with her in it has more or less the same inner monolog. She agonized over killing a freaking termite, for pete's sake.
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1 - Marco
2 - Cassie
3 - Ax
4 - Jake
5 - Rachel
6 - Tobias
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1-Marco
2-Jake
3-Tobias
4.Ax
5.Cassie
6.Rachel
Well I hate Ax, Tobias, Rachel, and Cassie all the same... They we're all to emotional, but the book 49-54 Tobias is cool.
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Well I hate Ax, Tobias, Rachel, and Cassie all the same... They we're all to emotional, but the book 49-54 Tobias is cool.
I thought Macro often out angsted Tobias :P
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I think mine are:
1. Ax
2. Marco/Rachel
3. Tobias
4. Cassie
5. Jake
My reasons are that Ax's books are usually full of lulz. Jake's can be a bit flat.
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I know! Jake's a cool character, but his books just seem really dull for me.
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Ax's books were funny, but him as a character was Meh...
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1-Marco
2-Jake
3-Tobias
4.Ax
5.Cassie
6.Rachel
Well I hate Ax, Tobias, Rachel, and Cassie all the same... They we're all to emotional, but the book 49-54 Tobias is cool.
You would rather they all have the same cool and reserved personality? I'm not sure how Ax is too emotional. can you be a fan if you hate over half the main characters?
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I don't HATE them, It was just i didn't like them as characters. I loved every book each of them narrated, except some Cassie books...
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Ok. I just thought that was a little odd.
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1. Ax - I love the way he sees, observes and explains all things human. It's quite funny.
2. Tobias - For being ready to fight the Yeerks from the very moment they have been given the power to morph.
3. Marco - (I didn't like him that much at the beginning when he used to whine about fighting all the time.) Takes nothing too seriously. But pretty smart.
4. Jake - Being able to handle every situation without hesitation is a really good quality of him.
5. Rachel - I like Rachel. What I don't like about her is she being stubborn and ****y sometimes. (like mosta the times)
6. Cassie - She's endangered the whole team in many occasions trying to stick to her of her hippie beliefs and stupid morals and ethics. She never understands that it is war and sometimes you have to play unfair.
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1. Marco.
2. Cassie.
3. Jake.
4. Ax.
5. Tobias.
6. Rachel.
6. Cassie - She's endangered the whole team in many occasions trying to stick to her of her hippie beliefs and stupid morals and ethics. She never understands that it is war and sometimes you have to play unfair.
She's a vet. She loves animals. She believes in the sanctity of life. She's an idealist. And you expect her to change her entire outlook on life when she's only 13?! (OK, 16 come the end of the book.) Sure, they're all hardened warriors. But I would be at LEAST a bit worried that NORMAL 13 year olds could become such hardened warriors, adapt so well to the war when they were so young.
I think it could also be put down to the fact that Cassie has the least to lose and can most afford to NOT give up her idealism and character. The rest aren't "normal" by any means. Marco's mum is Visser One and he wants to save her (and has to deal with "killing" her over and over again). Jake only fought because he wanted to save his brother (and we all know how well that turned out in the end), and he's the leader. He can't spend time being the moral compass. Rachel was a crazy schoolgirl with a higher calling who loved to fight, and we see how she got more and more violent and occasionally lost herself to battle lust over the series (#32 was enlightening). Tobias has almost nothing to lose. People have never treated him well (except Jake and the Animorphs). Ax... is an Andalite. He's been brought up as a warrior who believes that Yeerks are the embodiment of all evil.
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Cassie is the reason the Yeerks acquired morphing power and made the war way more difficult.
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But some Yeerks decided to leave the war and become nothlits, right? Assuming they didn't just take their hosts with them. That makes it all better, right?
Not to me, it doesn't.
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But some Yeerks decided to leave the war and become nothlits, right? Assuming they didn't just take their hosts with them. That makes it all better, right?
Not to me, it doesn't.
Starting from book #51, you see that there are two kinds of morph capable Controllers.
Most of them are human Controllers, so the Yeerks just demorph back to human in two hours and every three days go to the pool to soak up those Kandrona rays. But there are a few Yeerks who acquired the morphing capability themselves, as in they morph directly from Yeerk to whatever.
In book 52, during the whole subway/train incident, James kills a Controller in midmorph, but I believe he was morphing from human to Hork-Bajir. And most Yeerks who became nothlits were not just pure Yeerks but human Controllers too.
So some humans never got freedom. Every three days, they'd be detained as their Yeerk took a swim. They couldn't morph to escape because the Yeerks would just stun them. Then one day their Yeerk would trap them in morph. Not only did the humans lose thier body, but the Yeerk still remains in control.
And there's one person we can all blame.
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1) Marco
I related to Marco the most as a kid, and whilst he isn't my favourite by loads like he was when I was nine, he is still the best character in my opinion. He had the best perspective and balanced morality of the group, I think. He's smart and practical, cautious when he needs to be (like Cassie) and willing to go for it when need be (like Rachel). I know Jake faced a lot of agony over his brother but jeez.. Marco lost his mother to a fake boating accident and then finds out she's the HEAD of the Yeerk invasion? He handles life really well, considering.
2) Tobias
Cassie's moral code without being too sentimental. The way he adapts to life as a hawk is something I don't thinkI'd be able to do so well. I'd be so bitter. I mean, he is bitter but he's still in the fight 100% from the beginning. He has more to lose in that sense because he's fighting as a hawk and if that tiny body gets broken he's dead. The others can at least morph back.
3) Rachel
Power Grrrrl. I know Rachel loses it with the bloodlust, but I like that this role was done with a female character. Her toughness was inspiring growing up, and I think she had a "cold" personality at times because the writing wasn't so great. I mean, who else got tired with being told her and Cassie were soooo opposite yet great buds? Anyway, her bravery and the defiance of a typically blonde, wimpy girl role (Cindy from Spooksville?) was awesome.
4) Jake
At times Jake just seemed to be The Leader. That's how I see him in my mind, at least. He's pretty two dimensional in my memories of reading the books as a kid. He goes through a lot at the end though, and no-one would wish that on anyone let alone a 16 year old kid.
5) Cassie
Cassie is probably the most "real" considering she is 13 when the war starts. Her and Marco are more true to her age - Marco is "immature" in the sense that he refuses to look at life seriously, and Cassie just has that whole naive, "I got this worldview at a young age and can't deviate from it like you guys" sort of thing. It's interesting that she was the most moralising yet made the most awful mistakes. She's a nice kid but the worst character, she should have stayed at home rather than cutting through the construction site.
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Hah! I forgot Ax. I guess he's after Rachel because of his unintentional humour, and the interesting battle of "help the humans" and "stay loyal to his people". I mean, obviously help the humans but he's similar to Cassie in the sense that they've been brought up with such strong ideals of how to be.
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While Rachel does have her moments of just pure battle high, I don't think she ever loses herself in a permanent sense. Just look at her last narrated book before 54, and her last thought in 54. She denies Crayak, and thinks of shopping. Of course she is tempted when Crayak makes the offer, but who wouldn't be in her situation?
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I guess she's just really good at compartmentalising, re shopping. I do wonder how she would have coped once the war was over and she didn't have to fight any more. She'd probably turn into a Gaia(Fearless)-meets-Superhero type, morphing into a bear to kick the butts of muggers and thieves.
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There are all kinds of action packed, acceptable lifestyles she could have lived after the war. Hell, even joining the military and training for the next Human-Human war. Though the big rule about killing other Humans may have gotten in the way of that. Anyway, if there's anyone who could persevere and get past the war, it would be Rachel.
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1. Ax and Tobias (It's a tie!!)
Ax is hilarious, and I do admire his sense of loyalty, As for Tobias, I can really relate to the whole thing of his being a loner. I was one myself, till recently. But I love the fact that he's the most willing to fight.
2. Marco
Marco is the most real of the characters for me. I love his humorous take on life.
3. Jake
Jake is so grown up for a kid it's unbelievable!
4. Rachel
I dunno, I found Rachel rather shallow. What I really didn't like, though, was how she was unwilling to accept Tobias' new 'human' form without realizing that that was how he could stay in the fight.
5. Cassie
Cassie was seriously annoying with all her moralizing... and from what I've seen so far I think half the thread will agree with me :)
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No vote on the top of the page about "which is your fave Animorph"?
Would make it easier to see which character is more loved :3
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You can't really have the same relationship with a bird that you can with a Human. It's pretty simple, really.
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All of the characters played a key role.
1.cassie : even though her morality was overwhelming, it was exactly what they needed. To hold on to their humanity.
2. Jake: as a leader , he did good. He just relied to much on other people. If that makes sense ?
3. Marco. He held on too himself. Even though he lost alot. I can relate to him.
4.tobias: Tobias was so depressing. To me it seemed like he hurt them more than helped. He was an important character though.
5: Rachel : impulsive. But loyal.
6: Ax: a boring yet useful character.
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I'd have to say my personal favorite Animorph is Tobias; he's just a really intense character in my opinion and I just really admire him...I can't really rank the others though because I just love all of them. They all play a special role...Jake with his leadership and responsibility, Rachel with her bravery and determination, Cassie with her peaceful devotion to humanity and nature, Marco with his brilliance, charm and humor, and Ax for being...well Ax :) He's really awesome too. All I can say that the Animorphs wouldn't be complete if it weren't for all of them, they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I just can't rank them because it would be like telling a mother to rank her children. :)
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1.) Tobias (love him!!)
2.) Jake (understand most of what he talks about and love how he can make all of these difficult choices.)
3.) Cassie (I completely understand most of her resoning)
4.) Marco (Funny, but sometimes got annoying. Sometimes)
5.) Ax (always thought o him as kind of a jerk. Sorry but its the truth. :/)
I would also like to post (for all of you Cassie haters) that I personally understood her every motivation.
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Hurrrg, nope, can't do it. Even aside from the whole Cassie-hate debate, I've had each and every main character as my 'favourite'.
Cassie because she's the moral compass and the empath -- she was particularly my favourite when I was younger, but also I LOVE #19 and #29. At the same time, she got some of the worst books, too.
Marco because he reminds me the most of me (currently -- I disliked him as a kid, thought he was an annoying jerk.) Also #15 is one of my top 5. Still, some other books of his are just... not memorable. He seems to get a TON of action books, which might be why I prefer #15, which is more emotional and internal through much of it.
Jake absolutely fascinates me; #47 is my favourite book of the series, and I love all it says about his character. I know he was bland at first, but that's part of what makes him interesting, if that makes any sense.
Ax I've always loved because, like Marco, he has the capacity for great comedy and great drama. I find his serious moments extremely powerful, and he has some of the most growth as a character. All of his books were memorable to me.
Rachel was my other favourite as a kid, and I still love her because, while she does become more and more a Blood Knight, it's a very realistic transformation. Still, she got a couple of my least favourite books, which is a shame.
Tobias is an on-again off-again favourite of mine, and as a kid, #23 and #3 were some of my absolute favourites. His tone is very distinct, and he becomes one of the first voices that you'd recognize without being told who it was. I like the more distant, observant pacing of his books and I love the hawk elements.
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I can't say there is a definite rank for them. How much i like one of them depends on which book i'm reading and at what point of the story i'm at. For sure i probably loved Rachel the most, but sometimes i thought she really needed a good slap in the face. Jake, Tobias, Ax and Marco seem to jump up and down the ranks. I find Marco's character more lovable when i don't have to deal with his mommy issues, the first time it was sad, the second time it was pretty sad too. After that i thought it got a little bit too contrived. Cassie i probably like the least overall because of her never-ending morality speals, but she had her moments of awesome too.
Tentative list?
Rachel
Tobias
Ax
Jake
Marco
Cassie
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For sure i probably loved Rachel the most, but sometimes i thought she really needed a good slap in the face.
Agreed my friend, agreed. :):)