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Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Kitulean on January 18, 2009, 07:20:58 AM
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What moments maybe weren't your favorite, but surprised you the most in the series? What moments made you read it and go "Wait, what?!" then read it again and still go "WAIT, WHAT?!"
The one that springs to mind for me was Jake getting shot in the head in Megamorphs 3, in George Washington's boat. I mean you knew he'd be okay, but still.
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he wasn't ok. he was dead...
hmm...I'm sure that's happened to me before, but I can't recall any right now...
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Umm... I meant you knew he'd be okay by the end of the book...
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Aria being Visser Three in morph. Toby being "different". Chapman being in AC. Rachel dying. Jake getting shot. Thinking Tobias had died during the David trilogy, and Ax's response being "that is bad.". When the Animorphs get transported to Z-space. Maybe more.
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The one that springs to mind for me was Jake getting shot in the head in Megamorphs 3, in George Washington's boat. I mean you knew he'd be okay, but still.
oh yeah, i definately remembered that. I was like...WHAT THE WORLD?! but I didn't know what was really happening....
and also the beginning of that megamorphs. I was just clueless!
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Most surprising? Probably when Marco went to go save his dad and his dad was about to get a Yeerk in his head. Honestly, I was like: this is not happening.
Also, when they put Visser Three to court in the last book. Also made me go this is so not happening
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I was lost during the beginning of that megamorphs too. Like, how does Tobias know the slaves are having a good time? He can't tell. And Jake getting snappy with Ax? what's up with that? Plus him being tempted to hand Cassie over to the SSS. Did I miss reading the last book or something?
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I was lost during the beginning of that megamorphs too. Like, how does Tobias know the slaves are having a good time? He can't tell. And Jake getting snappy with Ax? what's up with that? Plus him being tempted to hand Cassie over to the SSS. Did I miss reading the last book or something?
hah same! I kept thinking that I picked up the wrong book, didn't I? XD
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When Tobias got stuck as a hawk, back in book 1.
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When Tobias got stuck as a hawk, back in book 1.
Well the first book I read was #5 so I knew he was going to get trapped. I was still a little surprised it happened so early though.
Rachel's death shocked me even though I half knew it was coming. Tobias being "dead" in book 21/21 was the same, although I suspected that he'd be okay I didn't expect that the dead hawk was a different hawk altogether. And Megamorphs#3 was full of surprises (eg. Jake dying) especially the very confusing start to the book. I remember thinking something along the lines of "well I don't know much about American laws, but I'm pretty damn sure they don't have slavery there anymore!" :P
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#8 was the first book I read, so Tobias getting trapped wasn't a surprise.
Though when the Ellemist gave him his powers back, and told him to morph, I thought he meant demorph. Like, Tobias needed to demorph back to his Human self to keep from being eaten.
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Most surprising? Probably when Marco went to go save his dad and his dad was about to get a Yeerk in his head. Honestly, I was like: this is not happening
Yeah, I remember reading that Marco just revealed his entire life story, I was amazed it actually happened. Or when Marco found out about his mom, or when the Nartec showed up, but that was more of a "What is this?" moment
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um....when the Nesk and Mercora arrived on the scene I was like "no way! HAHAHAHA"
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Oh man, when I thought Tobias was dead that one time I actually started crying. ::)
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Rachel's death, as shocking as it was, it wasn't really a surprise, was it?!
I remember feeling surprised when Jake got shot in #MM3; when David went around taking down the Animorphs; the way Tobias got back his powers,
But I am going to have to go with the moment in The Absolute, where Cassie stops Jake and lets Tom walk away with the Cube. That was my biggest 'WTF-go-back-and-re-read-disbelief-shocking-unpredictable-unforeseen-slap-me-now-holy-crap!' moment.
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Did I forget to mention that part too? That was a surprise. Also, Tobias telling Jake that excluding Cassie from a meeting afterwards was beyond wrong. I'm like, excluding her is about the least he could have done. Was the betrayal just lost on everyone in the team except Jake and Ax?
When I read Ellemist Chronicles, and it mentioned someone dying, I thought it would be someone on thier death bed. Dying of old age. Even when it was written "It started with six (even though it technically didn't), and it will end with five." I didn't want to believe anyone would die and stay dead.
Cassie's betrayal definitely confirmed that the girl put emotions above common sense. Which is often considered better in series, though it actually isn't. I read something online that there's a term for it. Du aux something, or whatever.
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...Cassie's betrayal definitely confirmed that the girl put emotions above common sense. Which is often considered better in series, though it actually isn't. I read something online that there's a term for it. Du aux something, or whatever...
Interesting. Irrational X Rational, very subjective.
But I am interested in reading about Du aux or whatever there...
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There's one thing called du aux machina. I don't know what it means, but bringing that word up on wikipedia might help get you to the right place.
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I remember one. I don't remember completely, but it was during mm2 just before jake yelled stampede. I don't know why but I was completely lost about what was going on...
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[spoiler]When Marco told his Dad about the invasion. The whole time I kept thinking, "HOLY CRAP, WTF?![/spoiler]
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Cassie's betrayal definitely confirmed that the girl put emotions above common sense. Which is often considered better in series, though it actually isn't. I read something online that there's a term for it. Du aux something, or whatever.
Are you thinking of deus ex machina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina)? I don't know if that really describes what Cassie did very well though. I think of it more as, for example, the Ellimist's intervention in the series, or the end of #41.
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Not really. I was just using that as an example, because I don't know what the other is called. The other one is where you have someone taking a choice based on feelings over logic, and somehow everything turns out ok, somehow proving that trusting feelings over logic is best. Even though in reality it isn't.
Like when she handed over the cube. It could have gone so wrong, though some good things did happen. However, it was still a bad choice.
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Wow, NO ONE mentioned the whole Elfangor being Tobias's dad thing?
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Oh yeah. And Eva being alive too.
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Wow, NO ONE mentioned the whole Elfangor being Tobias's dad thing?
not really. I was more worried about tobias messing up and letting Aria/Visser 3 find out...
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Same, and the fact that my brother had noooo problems spoiling that book for me, so there wasn't any surprise :P
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Mine was the end of the whole series. I was saying "that's IT?!
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I was really surprised by Eva being alive... I really didn't expect it ^^'
I also was surprised by many things you already said...
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I read book 15 before book 5, so alas, the whole Eva thing didn't really surprise me. And before that I think I'd only read book 2, so... yeah. It was probably one of the first things I learned about Marco.
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I think Elfangor being Tobias's father was one of the best moments. The kind that gave you tingles up your spine when you read it for the first time. Ax knocking out Jake and stealing the plane with the bomb was a surprise to me. I never thought Ax would take it that far.
Finding out the Animorphs were the reason that the comet killed the dinosaurs was a bit of a shock. There were a lot of suprising moments.
But I don't think Rachel dying was the biggest surprise. I read the books as they came out, so I spent a lot of time debating in chat rooms about which animorph was going to die when the teaser that one animorph wasn't going to make it was released. Most agreed the story was being set up that Rachel would not make it, what with the other characters said about Rachel. They were sure she was the one who needed the war and except Tobias they were concerned what would happen to her if it all ended.
Of course, guessing this didn't make it any better when she died... ::tear::
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Ax knocking out Jake and stealing the plane with the bomb was a surprise to me. I never thought Ax would take it that far.
I actually don't get why people (even the ones in the book) were so shocked about that...what's so shocking?
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I wasn't too surprised either, actually.
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[spoiler]elfangor's relationship to tobias
marco's mother
cassie giving away the cube
rachel dying[/spoiler]
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How about finding out that Visser One (Edriss) had kids with her human host and with another Yeerk and it's host? How scandalous... :)
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Oh, and Loren being alive was very surprising too...
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Yeah, bringing Loren back and then doing nothing with her was surprising. Also Edriss' kids made me sympathise with Yeerks who are forced into the war. They can love, and they can care, but they are chained to the corrupted Council.
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yeah, the Visser Chronicles actually had me sympathizing with Edriss.
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I liked Edriss before reading Visser, but true, he's amazing in this book ^^ And the kids, his life on Earth before the war... yeah, surprising!
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where did those kids go again? were they killed?
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One of them was infested. I don't know about the other. And I always call Edriss a she.
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darn...i wonder if there are fanfics for that.
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what kind of fanfic would be done? I suppose you could think of something interesting after the boy gets infested, and learns his real mother is an alien.
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well, about the other kid that is not infested.
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How about finding out that Visser One (Edriss) had kids with her human host and with another Yeerk and it's host? How scandalous... :)
Yeah, that was pretty surprising!
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Okay tobias getting traped as a Hawk was continually forshadowed in the first book so no surprise there. I was surprised that his mom was alive though that is what got me.
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Has anyone mentioned Elfangor being responsible for Alloran's infestation yet?
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no, but didn't really shock me...
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Oh, and Arbron who re-appear near the end! Surprising too!
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Yeah, I remember reading that she was going to do a Taxxon chronicles but ended up just including Arbron in the end of the series instead to finish his story.
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Book 13 had various surprising monents. None so surprising as jeremy slicing his head open to prove he wasn't a controller.
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his name is Jara, not Jermey...Jermey is what Marco though Jara called himself...
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I was shocked that [spoiler]all the auxiliaries died in #53,[/spoiler] but looking back I guess it wasn't that unexpected.
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oh yeah. i kinda didn't realize that happened until the end!
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his name is Jara, not Jermey...Jermey is what Marco though Jara called himself...
I know his name is Jara Hamee. I even know his wife's name is Ket Helpak, and his ancestor's name was Dak. I just felt like saying Jeremy.
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...that made no sense...
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A lot of things people find funny don't make sense to you.
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...that was supposed to be funny?
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If you say his name fast, it sounds like Jeremy. Since Jeremy is a Human name, it sounds a little funny to most people. Not really bust-a-gut funny, but chuckle out loud funny.
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...ok...can we go back to the universe where everything makes sense please?
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Fine, if you insist. How about that Yeerks can infest nonsentient creatures? I'm like, then waht's the point of the war? Just infest animals!
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I thought it had something to do with the make-up of the brain. Like when they were altering the brains of the hammerhead sharks to go after the leerans. But then, they could enter horses.
I was always curious about what happened to the Yeerk when they morphed something small? Like when Tom morphed a snake in the end. Or the Yeerks in hawk morph? Visser Three never morphed anything smaller then a human, but other controllers did.
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Visser Three morphed a Kafit bird, which I think is not that big.
I started a thread asking how Visser Three could morph a huge beast that would likely have a large brain. Or a beast with multiple heads. You could look that up.
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I also thought about that...
Maybe the Yeerk's body just melt with the Human's body, and then it's the same (Z-space, etc.).
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I also thought about that...
Maybe the Yeerk's body just melt with the Human's body, and then it's the same (Z-space, etc.).
that's what I came up with too...
I thought it had something to do with the make-up of the brain. Like when they were altering the brains of the hammerhead sharks to go after the leerans. But then, they could enter horses.
I was always curious about what happened to the Yeerk when they morphed something small? Like when Tom morphed a snake in the end. Or the Yeerks in hawk morph? Visser Three never morphed anything smaller then a human, but other controllers did.
actually visser three morphed a bug or something else small in #38...
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oh. Almost never lol. I'm rereading the series and I'm only up to 25 so i forgot about that. Sounds like an interesting thread Nohensen. I'll look it up.
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Morfowt: A bug? I don't remember about that...
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He might be talking about during the david trilogy.
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Tobias being stuck as a hawk wasn't a huge shocker(like somebody else said, it was foreshadowed throughout the whole 1st book) It also wasnt a suprise that Tobias got his powers back(I always knew he would, I just couldnt figure out how until I read book 7. Something just told me the Ellimist would just magically give him his powers back) Visser 1 being Eva did suprise me but I kinda guessed that she was still alive and would have something to do with the war. What did suprise me was.....
Tobias still having to stay a hawk even though he got his powers back
Elfangor being Tobias' dad
Almost all of Marco's books involving Visser one or his problems at home
Jake getting shot in the head in MM3
Tom's death and the fact that Jake wasn't the one that killed him
Eva actually lived(every book she was in, I'd always predict her death and it would never happen)
Rachel's death was probably the most surpising moment I've read in the whole seires. Although I was a little confused since I've never read 53. I knew at least one Animorph was gonna die but I thought it would be Tobias or Ax and then Jake or Rachel(or both) would go berserk and slaughter Visser 3 for killing Tobias and/or Ax
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He might be talking about during the david trilogy.
I said #38...that means #38, not the david trilogy...
Morfowt: A bug? I don't remember about that...
it might not have been a bug, but it was definitely something pretty small...
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The most surprising moment for me was when Jake, Tobias and Marco went to save Ax at the end only to find out that he had been assimilated by The One.... that was so shocking.
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When Tobias got stuck as a hawk, back in book 1.
I actually saw that coming. The moment Elfangor gave them that warning, I knew somebody would get stuck. And since Tobias spent like 70% of the book morphed, I put two and two together XD
Most surprising moment for me: ...probably finding out Elfangor was Tobias' son. I didn't read Andalite Chronicles so I found out through "the bunny book". It just seemed REALLY random to me. I wish KA had spent more time with that instead of basically treating it like random unimportant trivia.
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The most surprising moment for me was when Jake, Tobias and Marco went to save Ax at the end only to find out that he had been assimilated by The One.... that was so shocking.
Same here. I honestly thought Ax was only beaten and kidnapped at worst. But nope, they full on assimilated him, and while I was still trying to deal with the shock of it, they go ahead and describe that godsdamned grin that Ax made with his new lips and razor teeth. It was too much for me at the time ;_;
Another one was Tobias being trapped in hawk morph. It's true that the foreshadowing was obvious, but I honestly believed it would only happen past the halfway point of the series, because it would be pretty ridiculous to have a casualty so early in the series considering how outnumbered they are. But when I read and saw that it happened as soon as the end of the first book, it caught me off-guard. Unlike my first example though this was a pretty pleasant surprise, because I got a lot of joy out of seeing how they dealt with his nothlitism. It made for some of the most touching scenes in the series, anything involving him and Rachel alone together.
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The first 3 lines of book 16
Then I typed in my code word, which is a series of letters and numbers.
I moved the mouse and placed the arrow on "Sign On." I clicked themouse. And I waited while the modem dialed.
My name is Jake
I think the first two times I read that book I'd double take and say No. My name goes first. How did they get that wrong?
Oh to be young again
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The first 3 lines of book 16
Then I typed in my code word, which is a series of letters and numbers.
I moved the mouse and placed the arrow on "Sign On." I clicked themouse. And I waited while the modem dialed.
My name is Jake
I think the first two times I read that book I'd double take and say No. My name goes first. How did they get that wrong?
Oh to be young again
Yeah, with like most of the books, it's like "My name is..." then stuff happened. But with some Jake books, it's like (stuff happens)...My name is...
It seems odd after all those other 'My name is...'
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Most surprising moments for me are :
- Tobias trapped in hawk morph (book 1, altough looking back at the story, it was predictable)
- Marco's mom alive (book 5) *
- Elfangor as father of Tobias (book 23) *
- Tobias's mom alive (book 49)
Someone says Tobias presumably dead in #21 The Threath....well, for me It was not surprising, because in Italy the books have been published with 2 years of delay, and when #21 arrived, I've already seen on Scholastic website the cover of book 23 and 33 (narrated by Tobias) so I imagined that somehow he was alive.
* Especially these two, because is when you start thinking that Elfangor's landing in the construnction site is not random...6 billion humans, and he meet 5 kids, including his unknown son and the son of Visser One's host body?
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The only thing i remember specifically shocking me was the revelation that Elfangor was Tobias's father. Marco's mother being the host of Visser One was also fairly surprising.
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Oh, definitly the start of MM3! Melissa, slaves... I had no idea what was going on for months!
MONTHS!
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Fine, if you insist. How about that Yeerks can infest nonsentient creatures? I'm like, then waht's the point of the war? Just infest animals!
Most animals don't have hands, so can't use tools, so can't maintain an advanced civilization.