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Cassie's Greatest Hits
« on: September 03, 2012, 03:18:24 PM »
I don't think I'm wrong when I say there seems to be a lot of hate for Cassie running through these topics.  So I think it's past time we made a greatest hits list for arguably the dumbest of the Animorphs.

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Everyone fondly remembers Cassie's bailing on the team at the end of the series but my personal favorite dumb-Cassie moment is definitely from the Departure (19) when she not only quits the Animorphs (thereby effectively giving up on the entire world because she's a whiny baby) but also willingly allows a Yeerk to infest her on the naive hope that a creature designed to be a parasite will have moral objections to fulfilling its natural purpose.  The only reason she succeeds is that the author needed her to in order to perpetuate the series and make the bad guys more gray (no pun intended).

Anyone have any other favorite Cassie's stupid moments?  When and why?  And please, if you intend to defend Cassie's motives, do it elsewhere.  This is not the place.  We're not interested.  ::)
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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2012, 04:27:48 PM »
Part of what went wrong in 19 is that Cassie didn't seem to understand who Rachel was. Which is a pretty deal for a best friend. Rachel has her dark side, but she also has a strong better side too. She's not just a vicious blood knight, like the others think she is over time. She's definitely one of the strongest Animorphs, and abandoning the world because you don't want to become like Rachel shows a certain amount of ignorance on her part.

Giving the box to the Yeerks, and acting like whatever good came from it was her plan all along.

Having a fit over killing an animal in the second megamorphs book. Hell, getting upset over killing a termite queen too.

I realize that at the start all the Anis are kids. 13 years old. However, Cassie refuses to grow up and accept that people have to change. The world isn't made of butterflies and sprinkles, no matter how much we wish it would be. She's a static character, and while I wouldn't say she's pointless, she is annoying.


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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2012, 05:43:57 PM »
I don't think there should be anything wrong with debating and defending her motives here if somoene wants to. It shouldn't just be a one-sided thing.

That said, I didn't much like the box part near the end. There could have been a more logical way for the controllers to get it if that's what KAA wanted.

The termite queen thing too, I agree.

There's probably a lot in The Unexpected...I didn't care for it in general because it was all Cassie and none of the others.

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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2012, 06:05:21 PM »
If anyone was thinking straight, there were ways they could give Yeerks the power to morph without handing Visser Three the box, or allowing Yeerks to take their possibly involuntary hosts with them if they decided to be a bird or whatever. All it would take is the Chee or YPM members to spread the word, and whoever would have decided to leave the war would take the chance.

From a story perspective I can understand how the Yeerks getting the box bulds drama and tension, but if you can't do that without someone looking like they lost their mind, you probably shouldn't do it.


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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2012, 12:22:08 AM »
I would have to agree with #19, why did she even... Wow...
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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2012, 12:45:06 PM »
Don't forget though.  Cassie wasn't just giving the Yeerks the blue box, she was stopping Jake from killing Tom.

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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2012, 02:29:18 PM »
I like to focus on the little things, like her morphing a rat to cheat on a science project.
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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2012, 02:38:37 PM »
Don't forget though.  Cassie wasn't just giving the Yeerks the blue box, she was stopping Jake from killing Tom.
Yes at an insanely high cost. She says that aspect is more about protecting Jake then Tom, but what she did was nearly as destructive to him personally-that act nearly cost the relationship between him and Cassie, who he trusted, needed, and was arguably closer too and loved more than Tom by then.

Nothing tops the box in my mind, but there are some good contenters:


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Her griping over dinosaurs in MM2
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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2012, 04:02:50 PM »
There was nothing keeping Cassie and Jake from capturing Tom. A dracon wouldn't be enough to stop them, and no enemies were nearby to help him. she thought the two choices were let Tom's Yeerk get away, or let Jake kill them, when there was an obvious third option.


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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2012, 05:06:52 PM »
I don't think there should be anything wrong with debating and defending her motives here if somoene wants to. It shouldn't just be a one-sided thing.

I just don't want this to turn into a "defend Cassie" session.  The purpose of this thread is to collect her very best annoying/dumb moments, not to debate if she was morally right.

Another classic moment: I believe she was the only one ready to bail on the Earth (again) to take the Ellimist up on his offer to go live in a glorified zoo with all the people she cared about.  For such a staunch moralist, she was very self-centered at times.

One of the other things I hated about her character was that she was a "space-time anomaly".  Just because.  That was complete nonsense and, combined with her estreen ability, makes her seem a bit Mary Sue for my taste.
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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2012, 08:21:01 PM »
I forget who was for or against that, but the vote went for the idea. The only reason that didn't happen was because the Ellemist didn't actually want to do it. Yeah I know I'm defending Cassie, but let's not bash her for unjustified reasons.


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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2012, 08:58:21 PM »
Actually Cassie IS the only one to vote yes.  Check your sources before you call me out, please.  She is the only one to argue the point.  Everyone else said no.  Book #7, the Stranger, when they were in the Taxxon's mouth.  ::)
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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2012, 10:37:10 PM »
Really? I remember them all deciding yes, but Cassie's the only one to actually vote yes?

I'm not sure why it would amount to a zoo if they were relocated, though. I guess I really don't remember book 7 all that much.


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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2012, 12:06:06 AM »
Number 7 REALLY pissed me off, she was being such a good-moral-girl she had to think about just herself and her friends..
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Re: Cassie's Greatest Hits
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2012, 10:48:32 AM »
Well I am going to be different and vote one of my favorite Cassie moments had to be when she went humpback whale to get rid of Visser Three's "pet" at the end of Megamorphs #1.