How an Animorphs TV show and Movie should be done-REDUX

[Yorick Brown]

Maybe in the books and a full length TV series but not in movies where you only have a few films if more then one to tell the story.

Tobias' trap and all the hang-ups that come with it are too distracting for a plot-driven film. Character driven stories like The Encounter and The Alien and The Capture and The Departure just can't cut it.

[wotw2112]

Maybe in the books and a full length TV series but not in movies where you only have a few films if more then one to tell the story.

Tobias' trap and all the hang-ups that come with it are too distracting for a plot-driven film. Character driven stories like The Encounter and The Alien and The Capture and The Departure just can't cut it.

I get what you're saying and on many levels it makes sense.  However, tobias being a nothlit serves some important purposes in the storyline (a warning about the two hour limit, a physical representation of the risks they take every time they morph, etc).  I suppose you could cut this out without crippling the series but then you might want to take the time limit out too.  Thus Tobias never gets stuck which possibly eliminates the need for the ellimist at all...

Not saying I agree with that...just thinking out loud

[XenomorphLV426]

Tobias' trap and all the hang-ups that come with it are too distracting for a plot-driven film. Character driven stories like The Encounter and The Alien and The Capture and The Departure just can't cut it.

Therefore, bada-bing bada-boom, the movies shouldn't be made.

[filmstu2005]

Thank GOD this isn't real. THank GOD you're not and more than likely never will be in charge of the creation of an Animorph movie. I would honestly boycott.

I'm sorry dude, but ur ideas do no justice for the overall theme of the books. They limit the characters in unnecessary ways. And really, as I've noticed this solely based on the opinions you've express in this forum, everything you took out of the story was everything you hated in the story, not b/c it doesnt "fit". Lol. You hated the whole complexity issue of Animorphs. This movie would be your own personal movie and yours alone, without any acknowledgment for the fans. Tobias an orphan, not son of Elfangor? Marco not the son of Visser One? Let me guess, Ax wont even be Elfangor's brother? When you're adapting books to film format, there's always a way to make things fit. At the end of this first movie you've proposed, Tobias could easily get trapped in a morph. And it would underline the 2 hr limit warning. And yes, that would "fit." It isnt distracting if it comes at the END of the film. HINT HINT.  The other two movies sound like a major flop for Disney.

Seriously, by taking away all that you have, its just not Animorphs anymore. Call it The Changelings, cause that book series idea didnt fly just like this idea wont fly. But oh well. Glad I remembered it isnt real.

[filmstu2005]

um, no actually the only ones ripping this up real bad is filmstu and xenomorph

I'm not ripping Yorrick. I just don't like his ideas. That's not a crime. He seems to be really eager to have his ideas liked by everyone, when nothing in his proposal sounds reasonable. As of right now, Animorphs on TV as live action isnt something I'd look forward to. Maybe 10-20 yrs from now when budget and technology and the special effects would be able to sustain such a massive series.

And I think Blake lively (very beautiful girl) will be about 10-20 yrs older when this thing is made. Too old to be Rachel

Id prefer animation for Animorphs. That would def. work at anytime. But his ideas would not work in animation either. He takes out and leaves him what pleases him

[morfowt]

I didn't say rip Yorrick up, I meant rip his idea up, which I think you are doing.

[XenomorphLV426]

Nothing wrong with ripping up bad ideas, if he can provide reasons why they're bad ideas.  Which he pretty much has.

It doesn't seem to be personal, it's just like, hey, a crappy concept is a crappy concept.

[morfowt]

I didn't say it was a bad thing to do. I'm just saying the fact that he did.

[Yorick Brown]

He seems to be really eager to have his ideas liked by everyone, when nothing in his proposal sounds reasonable.

My ideas don't have to be accepted but I would like a proper explanation as to WHY you don't like it. I don't like your idea and that's that' isn't good enough. I want debate and discord.

And I think Blake lively (very beautiful girl) will be about 10-20 yrs older when this thing is made. Too old to be Rachel

Wrong thread. I want Lively for a live action MOVIE not a TV series. She already has Gossip Girl.

Id prefer animation for Animorphs. That would def. work at anytime. But his ideas would not work in animation either. He takes out and leaves him what pleases him

Nope. Just things too confusing (the Ellimist's origins) and impractical (Tobias as a morph-capable hawk)

[Yorick Brown]

However, tobias being a nothlit serves some important purposes in the storyline (a warning about the two hour limit, a physical representation of the risks they take every time they morph, etc).

Actually, Tobias isn't stuck as a hawk BUT I'm keeping the two-hour limit.

The limit is perfect for tensions-filled scenes. The audience will be thinking 'Will they make it out before the clock is up?'

In the first movie, I'm gonna use the time limit to make the audience worry about a captured Rachel in cat morph.

Therefore, bada-bing bada-boom, the movies shouldn't be made.

The wnhy do people bother making film adaptations at all? These movies aren't JUST for fans of the book. Other people who haven't even heard of Animorphs before should want to see and enjoy these films. It's a business where money must be made. I hate to break it to you but Animorphs is, never was and never will be a Harry Potter.

And really, as I've noticed this solely based on the opinions you've express in this forum, everything you took out of the story was everything you hated in the story, not b/c it doesnt "fit". Lol. You hated the whole complexity issue of Animorphs.

That's not true at all.

This movie would be your own personal movie and yours alone, without any acknowledgment for the fans.

But I have acknowledge the fans BUt ia lso acknowledge the non-fans who may want to see these movies. They're not for you and you alone. At least I considered non-Animorphs fans.

Tobias an orphan, not son of Elfangor? Marco not the son of Visser One?

Nothing personal. It just wouldn't ftr into a film series. Notice that my TV series DOES have include this storyline because of all the room there is for it.

Let me guess, Ax wont even be Elfangor's brother?

There's absolutely no reason whatsoever why a movie or a TV show wouldn't incllude the fact that Ax and Elfangor were brothers. Where would you think I'd do that?

When you're adapting books to film format, there's always a way to make things fit.

Sure...if a movie is 6 hiours long. You sound like a bitter Harry Potter fan bashing the films.

At the end of this first movie you've proposed, Tobias could easily get trapped in a morph. And it would underline the 2 hr limit warning. And yes, that would "fit." It isnt distracting if it comes at the END of the film. HINT HINT.

And in the NEXT films? Like audience memebrs would stand a talking bird throughout a film. A talking bird that mopes and flies around and can't do much in a guerilla war against an alien inavsion?

Use the time limit to create tension-filled moments where the audience wonders if an Animorph will demorph on time and that's it.

The other two movies sound like a major flop for Disney.

1) Who said anything about Disney?
2) Why do they sound like flops?


Dude. You NEED to chill out. It's not serious.

[Phoenix004]

Since you have already discussed your ideas for an ANimorph movie before, you shouldn't really have created this thread, but I can see how you'd want this a seperate thread from your TV show idea because they would completely contradict each otheer if discussed in the same thread.

Personally, I think most of the changes you've suggested would completely butcher the series. However, this is merely my own opinion, just like this move idea is your opinion Yorick. Don't take it personally when people disagree with you.

Seriously though, your idea seem to have some terrible inconsistencies. If the Andalites didn't give technology to the Yeerks, then how did they get involved in a war with the Yeerks? And if Crayak doesn't exist, then why is the Ellimist limited by rules? If there is no Crayak to oppose him, he could do anything he wanted!

Even though you clearly don't like the idea that Tobias got trapped, it is a key part of the Animorphs story; as are many of the changes you made.

[Yorick Brown]

Personally, I think most of the changes you've suggested would completely butcher the series. However, this is merely my own opinion, just like this move idea is your opinion Yorick. Don't take it personally when people disagree with you.

I haven't taken it personally so far AT ALL. If I sound annoyed is because people like you and filmstu hardly tell me WHy you think tehse idaes are bad. I don't need or want a chorus of agreement but I do want debate and discord. Where's the fun in being on a forum if you can't have that?

If the Andalites didn't give technology to the Yeerks, then how did they get involved in a war with the Yeerks?

I didn't cosnider that. Really, I just put that rule up there because I thought I'd have to adapt5 an entire character-driven story like The Alien into a film.

I GUESS there could be a passing line when they meet Elfangor or Ax for the first time where he tells them what caused the Yeerk menace in a few passing lines of dialouge or we could simply let the audience come up with that reason. Maybe they're both from the same planet and one race turned evil and the other race hunts them?

And if Crayak doesn't exist, then why is the Ellimist limited by rules? If there is no Crayak to oppose him, he could do anything he wanted!

Once again, let the audience come up with that. Maybe he doesn't like directly interfering with the fate of sentient creatures? Maybe it's the law of the Ellimists?

Even though you clearly don't like the idea that Tobias got trapped, it is a key part of the Animorphs story; as are many of the changes you made.

But I DON'T hate the idea that Tobias is trapped in a morph! It's NOTHING personal!

In the TV show, he gets trapped but not in a MOVIE where there are only so many films to tell the story with.

[Phoenix004]

Again, I know this is just your idea of how the series should go, but I find that many things are just plain stupid (no offence).

Firstly, I hate the idea of making it an animated series. I'm sure it would make the series easier and cheaper to produce, but since this is a hypothetical situation we're talking about, I don't think we need to worry about time and expense.

I don't mind the idea of making the team a bit older, as that way they can introduce darker themes and be less worried about mentally scarring the 3 year olds who supposedly watch it.

I see no reason whatsoever to change the setting from California to Washington, or to change the morph clothing rule as it provided comic relief and was more realistic than morphing shoes and full clothing.

Ax going to school would be funny, but a huge security risk, not to mention the fact that he'd need legal documentation, parents, home address and phone number, etc. As for Tobias going back to school after being mysteriously absent for months? You don't think people would ask questions?

And the final point I can be bothered mentioning: the Yeerks never get the morphing cube. The Yeerks obtaining the cube is a critical turning point in the war that gave the Yeerks a way out of their parasitic bodies and made the Taxxon rebels help the Animorphs in the final battle.

[Yorick Brown]

Firstly, I hate the idea of making it an animated series.

Why? Don't like animation? (I'm not contesting you by the way. I'm honestly curious and would like to know why you dislike the idea of animation.)

Ax going to school would be funny, but a huge security risk, not to mention the fact that he'd need legal documentation, parents, home address and phone number, etc. As for Tobias going back to school after being mysteriously absent for months? You don't think people would ask questions?

Just hack some computers and change some records and use adult human morphs to pose as parents when need be and voila. Problem solved.

[yeerklover]

This is an interesting concept. I think that it would be cool, but it would have to be a lot less bloody from the way the books describe the battles.

I could see the animation making it like a ninja turtles type thing, where they kick and punch the bad guys, and the bad guys go down, but with no blood.