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Offline Darth Zakryn

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Cassie is a Luddite
« on: November 16, 2011, 04:18:19 PM »
It suddenly hit me just the other day. I had a flash of insight, and I had to share it with you all: Cassie is a Luddite! For those of you who do not know the definition of that term, a Luddite is someone who rejects technology, thinking it makes the world a worse place or that hard work is better than technology taking the place of it. Does this SOUND like Cassie or what? Derisive of machines, complaining about the Internet, living on a farm, etc.

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Re: Cassie is a Luddite
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2011, 06:56:55 PM »
No, that... doesn't really sound like Cassie at all. Her very life depends on the morphing technology, and if she has a distaste of other tech like Dracon Beams, intergalactic flight (which brought the Yeerks to Earth in the first place), and the Kandrona, it's not really rational to see that as hating all tech. Several instances occur of her going to arcades and/or movie theaters, watching television or discussing pop culture that can only be learned through experience with technology.
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Re: Cassie is a Luddite
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 10:55:09 AM »
That sounds like an exact definition of the Amish. Cassie is many things but she isn't Amish
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Re: Cassie is a Luddite
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 01:14:53 PM »
One of my favorite authors, Thomas Pynchon, wrote a really great piece on Luddism, and he puts forth this (not so) little analysis:

[spoiler]Far from being revolutionary, much of the machinery that steam was coming to drive had already long been in place, having in fact been driven by water power since the Middle Ages. Nevertheless, the idea of a technosocial "revolution," in which the same people came out on top as in France and America, has proven of use to many over the years, not least to those who, like C. P. Snow, have thought that in "Luddite" they have discovered a way to call those with whom they disagree both politically reactionary and anti-capitalist at the same time.

But the Oxford English Dictionary has an interesting tale to tell. In 1779, in a village somewhere in Leicestershire, one Ned Lud broke into a house and "in a fit of insane rage" destroyed two machines used for knitting hosiery. Word got around. Soon, whenever a stocking-frame was found sabotaged -- this had been going on, sez the Encyclopedia Britannica, since about 1710 -- folks would respond with the catch phrase "Lud must have been here." By the time his name was taken up by the frame-breakers of 1812, historical Ned Lud was well absorbed into the more or less sarcastic nickname "King (or Captain) Ludd," and was now all mystery, resonance and dark fun: a more-than-human presence, out in the night, roaming the hosiery districts of England, possessed by a single comic shtick -- every time he spots a stocking-frame he goes crazy and proceeds to trash it.

But it's important to remember that the target even of the original assault of 1779, like many machines of the Industrial Revolution, was not a new piece of technology. The stocking-frame had been around since 1589, when, according to the folklore, it was invented by the Rev. William Lee, out of pure meanness. Seems that Lee was in love with a young woman who was more interested in her knitting than in him. He'd show up at her place. "Sorry, Rev, got some knitting." "What, again?" After a while, unable to deal with this kind of rejection, Lee, not, like Ned Lud, in any fit of insane rage, but let's imagine logically and coolly, vowed to invent a machine that would make the hand-knitting of hosiery obsolete, and so he did. According to the encyclopedia, the jilted cleric's frame "was so perfect in its conception that it continued to be the only mechanical means of knitting for hundreds of years."

Now, given that kind of time span, it's just not easy to think of Ned Lud as a technophobic crazy. No doubt what people admired and mythologized him for was the vigor and single-mindedness of his assault. But the words "fit of insane rage" are third-hand and at least 68 years after the event. And Ned Lud's anger was not directed at the machines, not exactly. I like to think of it more as the controlled, martial-arts type anger of the dedicated Bad*ss.

There is a long folk history of this figure, the Bad*ss. He is usually male, and while sometimes earning the quizzical tolerance of women, is almost universally admired by men for two basic virtues: he Is Bad, and he is Big. Bad meaning not morally evil, necessarily, more like able to work mischief on a large scale. What is important here is the amplifying of scale, the multiplication of effect.

The knitting machines which provoked the first Luddite disturbances had been putting people out of work for well over two centuries. Everybody saw this happening -- it became part of daily life. They also saw the machines coming more and more to be the property of men who did not work, only owned and hired. It took no German philosopher, then or later, to point out what this did, had been doing, to wages and jobs. Public feeling about the machines could never have been simple unreasoning horror, but likely something more complex: the love/hate that grows up between humans and machinery -- especially when it's been around for a while -- not to mention serious resentment toward at least two multiplications of effect that were seen as unfair and threatening. One was the concentration of capital that each machine represented, and the other was the ability of each machine to put a certain number of humans out of work -- to be "worth" that many human souls. What gave King Ludd his special Bad charisma, took him from local hero to nationwide public enemy, was that he went up against these amplified, multiplied, more than human opponents and prevailed. When times are hard, and we feel at the mercy of forces many times more powerful, don't we, in seeking some equalizer, turn, if only in imagination, in wish, to the Bad*ss -- the djinn, the golem, the hulk, the superhero -- who will resist what otherwise would overwhelm us? Of course, the real or secular frame-bashing was still being done by everyday folks, trade unionists ahead of their time, using the night, and their own solidarity and discipline, to achieve their multiplications of effect.

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It may be only a new form of the perennial Luddite ambivalence about machines, or it may be that the deepest Luddite hope of miracle has now come to reside in the computer's ability to get the right data to those whom the data will do the most good. With the proper deployment of budget and computer time, we will cure cancer, save ourselves from nuclear extinction, grow food for everybody, detoxify the results of industrial greed gone berserk -- realize all the wistful pipe dreams of our days.

The word "Luddite" continues to be applied with contempt to anyone with doubts about technology, especially the nuclear kind. Luddites today are no longer faced with human factory owners and vulnerable machines. As well-known President and unintentional Luddite D.D. Eisenhower prophesied when he left office, there is now a permanent power establishment of admirals, generals and corporate CEO's, up against whom us average poor b*stards are completely outclassed, although Ike didn't put it quite that way. We are all supposed to keep tranquil and allow it to go on, even though, because of the data revolution, it becomes every day less possible to fool any of the people any of the time.

If our world survives, the next great challenge to watch out for will come -- you heard it here first -- when the curves of research and development in artificial intelligence, molecular biology and robotics all converge. Oboy. It will be amazing and unpredictable, and even the biggest of brass, let us devoutly hope, are going to be caught flat-footed. It is certainly something for all good Luddites to look forward to if, God willing, we should live so long. Meantime, as Americans, we can take comfort, however minimal and cold, from Lord Byron's mischievously improvised song, in which he, like other observers of the time, saw clear identification between the first Luddites and our own revolutionary origins. It begins:

    As the Liberty lads o'er the sea
    Bought their freedom, and cheaply, with blood,
    So we, boys, we
    Will die fighting, or live free,
    And down with all kings but King Ludd!


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tl;dr: Though Cassie may be wary of technology and/or opposes certain aspects of it, I don't think she would fall into the category of a Luddite. She doesn't seem like the type to go on a crazed weaving-machine-killing rampage because the machines were worth more than humans, though I guess it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibilities.

I dunno. I still think it's a stretch to call Cassie a Luddite. Maybe she shares some of the same basic principles, but I think that's about where it ends.

There is a Luddite movement called Reform Luddism...which is a more mild form of it, if I understand it correctly. They just dislike technology that is unnecessary, but they accept the inevitability of technological progress and try to find a balance. That might be a little closer.

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Re: Cassie is a Luddite
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2014, 08:12:52 PM »
she doesn't hate computers, or complain about the existence of the internet. just because you like nature doesn't mean you hate everything else.