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Flushing Yeerks
« on: August 18, 2008, 08:22:19 PM »
Did it seem odd to anyone else that it was so easy for Jake to flush 100,000s of Yeerks out of the poolship?

Wouldn't you think the Yeerks would want to make doing something like that pretty damn hard (if not impossible)?  Like redundant security measures and passwords and stuff?

It seems unwise to have a big red button with a "Flush Yeerks Here!" sign above it...

Also, why would they even want something like that to be possible?  In case they suddenly felt like having a genocide? 

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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2008, 08:28:18 PM »
My best guess would be that they had that system installed in order to deposit large numbers of Yeerks from the ship into a land based Yeerk Pool. As for the security, the Animorphs had to get past various security checks before even reaching the ship and then needed the help of an Andalite and an incredibly advanced android to hack into the ships systems. It was hardly easy.
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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2008, 08:35:48 PM »
They said it was so they could repair the pool...

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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2008, 08:39:12 PM »
Perhaps I didn't make myself entirely clear.  I was thinking more of some kind of system that would make it impossible to operate the release controls when in orbit/anywhere out of atmosphere.  It's just something that you would want to make impossible because there is no reason you would ever want to do it on purpose.

And the Yeerks knew all about the Andalite help and would (should) have designed security systems specifically to prevent andalite hacking (i'd think) though admittedly they'd have little in the way of defense against Erik.

Good point though about filling ground based pools (though I doubt the pool ship ever entered the earth atmosphere).  Maybe it is for filling up temporary pools in smaller transport ships?

The whole thing just seemed far too easy.

And why wouldn't you have a safer means of emptying if you needed to "repair the pool"?
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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2008, 08:46:25 PM »
Why would they bother installing a system that prevents the pool being flushed while in space? They arrogantly assumed that nobody would be able to get past security and hack into their systems, and the Yeerks themselves would hardly decide to flush their own people.
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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2008, 08:52:49 PM »
Why would they bother installing a system that prevents the pool being flushed while in space? They arrogantly assumed that nobody would be able to get past security and hack into their systems, and the Yeerks themselves would hardly decide to flush their own people.

Maybe but not all Yeerks are defined by arrogance.  And who knows whether they would do it themselves?  What if a Yeerk lost control of a host?  What if a Yeerk goes renegade?  What if Visser 3 decides he doesn't particularly like a particular batch of Yeerks?  There seem like a lot of reasons they would want to ensure the safety of their future (and essentially their army).  Some of the more calculating Yeerks would have undoubtedly seen the need for internal security as well (sounds like something Visser 1 would approved of).
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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2008, 08:54:39 PM »
Why would they bother installing a system that prevents the pool being flushed while in space? They arrogantly assumed that nobody would be able to get past security and hack into their systems, and the Yeerks themselves would hardly decide to flush their own people.

Maybe but not all Yeerks are defined by arrogance.  And who knows whether they would do it themselves?  What if a Yeerk lost control of a host?  What if a Yeerk goes renegade?  What if Visser 3 decides he doesn't particularly like a particular batch of Yeerks?  There seem like a lot of reasons they would want to ensure the safety of their future (and essentially their army).  Some of the more calculating Yeerks would have undoubtedly seen the need for internal security as well (sounds like something Visser 1 would approved of).

Perhaps, but as proved on many occasions, Visser 3 is an arrogant moron!  ::)
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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2008, 08:56:40 PM »
Perhaps, but as proved on many occasions, Visser 3 is an arrogant moron!  ::)

Granted, he certainly is that.  But he's not necessarily typical of his kind.
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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2008, 09:08:30 PM »
According to the Hork-Bajir Chronicles, he's one of the smarter Yeerks!  :sign20:
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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2008, 09:12:30 PM »
According to the Hork-Bajir Chronicles, he's one of the smarter Yeerks!  :sign20:

Lol, smart but evil.  And not particularly cautious or concerned with casualties
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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2008, 11:39:38 PM »
All Yeerks are pretty arrogant it seems. Just like Jake's Yeerk in The Cpature and Visser Three's brotherin The Warning
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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2008, 12:33:13 AM »
what about that yeerk in #8 who wanted to kill visser three. I don't remember anything about him that seemed arrogant.

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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2008, 05:28:31 AM »
It's just something that you would want to make impossible because there is no reason you would ever want to do it on purpose.

Maybe it was hard to get all that water out of the pool, so they had to just flush the stuff into space...after removing all the Yeerks of course.

And it was 17,000 Yeerks...still a lot, but not hundreds of thousands x3


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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2008, 05:50:09 AM »
It's just something that you would want to make impossible because there is no reason you would ever want to do it on purpose.

Maybe it was hard to get all that water out of the pool, so they had to just flush the stuff into space...after removing all the Yeerks of course.

And it was 17,000 Yeerks...still a lot, but not hundreds of thousands x3

Ok, maybe I was a bit overzealous on the number...but did they ever dump the sludge in the pool?  I can't recall any mention of needing to change it.  The Kandrona was just kinda absorbed by the sludge so you wouldn't think it'd need a change.
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Re: Flushing Yeerks
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2008, 05:52:21 AM »
maybe the nutrients in the pool that the yeerks absorb were low.