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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2011, 11:36:59 AM »
Trap him as a dog and give him to Erek.

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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2011, 11:39:33 AM »
Their solution as a nothlit was their half way option between just killing him and letting him run free.

And really, the only reason why they never killed him was because he was human.

If it were up to me (or Rachel), I would have forced a confrontation; battle morph against battle morph. David goes Lion, I go into presumably an equally strong animal; perhaps a Bear. Bear against Lion, I'd make short work of him. If he managed to take me out some how, there's 4 others who could take him in a morph, and Ax could have taken him out easily.

If he tries to demorph to take advantage of my morality and refusal to kill a human, I calmly put one claw to his neck and kill him if he continues demorphing. So basically, force the fight to the death. If he tries to demorph to heal his wounds, he dies there as well; a dead lion.

If I had to trap him in a morph, I would have him trapped in another human; one who was born blind and mute. Since human morphs can't thought-speak, David can't see or speak while trapped. He can hear everything, see and say nothing, nor betray his secret (or the animorph's). To ensure that the two hour time limit passes, I need merely sedate him. By the time he comes to, it'd have been too late.

Alternatively, he could just be forced to morph into a mute person; subsequently, sedate him and then while sedated, remove his eyes. Unable to speak, see, thought-speak, and trapped in a morph, he'd be well-cared for in society by many many groups who help the needy. He wouldn't even have to fend for himself. It would be a very simple life; one where you are fed and hydrated day by day, have a place to sleep, but cannot see, nor speak.

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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2011, 11:49:11 AM »
Since human morphs can't thought-speak
I think you could thought-speak.

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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2011, 12:04:29 PM »
It's an inconsistent thing; some books have it that human morphs can't thought-speak, some have it where humans do thought-speak (though most of it is usually typos). There are more instances of an inability to thoughtspeak as a human/in human morph rather than being able to.

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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2011, 12:26:39 PM »
     He can if it's a morph.
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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2011, 01:21:45 PM »
While on hearsay that human morphs can thought-speak, I don't recall a human-morph ever thoughtspeaking. Which book was it, and by who?

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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2011, 02:18:45 PM »
I agree with the whole "forcing him to fight" thing. in fact that's the root I thought KA was gonna take. If I had to trap him, it'd be a snake so he'll at least wont be at the bottom of the food chain while on that island
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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2011, 05:49:28 PM »
Actually I quite like cam's idea. Trap him as a dog and give him to a Chee. You know they'll take good care of him and they aren't opposed to keeping things trapped. The only flaw could be if he somehow outsmarts the Chee and escapes he'd spill the beans on the Chee as well.
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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2011, 07:29:34 PM »
While on hearsay that human morphs can thought-speak, I don't recall a human-morph ever thoughtspeaking. Which book was it, and by who?
The ones I could remember is in book 33 page 28 of the ebook where Ax, ordered by Jake, says to everyone to stop messing around and focus on the task.
And in book 47 chapter 15 where Jake and Tobias talks to some campers. Tobias says to Jake that they watched too much star wars.
I think human-Ax also used thought speak while they were trying to capture Visser 2 in book 46.
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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2011, 07:36:20 PM »
it makes sense for human morphs to be able to use thought speech. What would make humans any different then other morphs?
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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2011, 10:52:04 PM »
Actually I quite like cam's idea. Trap him as a dog and give him to a Chee. You know they'll take good care of him and they aren't opposed to keeping things trapped. The only flaw could be if he somehow outsmarts the Chee and escapes he'd spill the beans on the Chee as well.

Yes like he would outsmart a species of androids created by the most advanced species to ever live that have been in operation since early Egypt. I'm sure they could make some kind of collar that would painlessly knock him out once he got past a certain point. But again turning him into a rat was punishment and since the dog is a generally happy creature.
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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2011, 05:50:45 AM »
Irk about you but I'd be pretty miserable if I had to spend the rest of my life as a dog. Especially when you consider their short lifespans
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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2011, 01:29:38 PM »
Actually I quite like cam's idea. Trap him as a dog and give him to a Chee. You know they'll take good care of him and they aren't opposed to keeping things trapped. The only flaw could be if he somehow outsmarts the Chee and escapes he'd spill the beans on the Chee as well.

Yes like he would outsmart a species of androids created by the most advanced species to ever live that have been in operation since early Egypt. I'm sure they could make some kind of collar that would painlessly knock him out once he got past a certain point. But again turning him into a rat was punishment and since the dog is a generally happy creature.

I dunno, Jake tricked Erek and Jake's ridiculously young relative to Erek. Just because their creators were advanced doesn't mean the creations are perfect.
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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2011, 05:51:50 PM »
Like I said, it's not consistent. I can't recall a specific moment, but I'm sure there were times where one of them was in human morph and couldn't thought-speak. Meh.

Regardless, make an amendment. instead of stranding him to some nut house, proceed to have the Chee transport him somewhere far away where the yeerks won't touch; maybe African tribes.

Or, if we really want him to suffer, just let him demorph from Rat after they trapped him. Once he was in mid morph, you could just sedate him. Falling unconscious in mid morph is one of the most dangerous things that can happen, since you're trapped as something neither human nor animal. They'd just need to drop him somewhere in the forest, and let nature deal with the rest.

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Re: What would you trap David as?
« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2011, 07:57:19 PM »
     Mid-morph nothlit sounds more dangerous for the Animorphs.
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