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Which race seems most cliched?
« on: August 04, 2008, 01:29:59 PM »
I don't know, this topic might be interesting.  I'd certainly be interested to hear what people think.

As stated above: which race seems most cliched?

Hork-Bajir - the pacifists turned unwillling shock troops?

Taxxons - the evil eating machines?

Andalites - The arrogant superior race?

Gedds - the stupid tools?

The Yeerks - the bodysnatching "evil" moral-paradox?

Maybe there are some other options too.
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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2008, 01:35:45 PM »
The Hork-Bajir and the Nartecs somewhat
This great evil - where's it come from?
How'd it steal into the world?
What seed, what root did it grow from?
Who's doing this?
Who's killing us, robbing us of life and light, mocking us with the sight of what we mighta known?
Does our ruin benefit the earth, aid the grass to grow and the sun to shine?  Is this darkness in you, too?  Have you passed through this night?

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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2008, 01:39:46 PM »
I have to agree that the Hork Bajir sorta do...
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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2008, 01:47:40 PM »
the hork bajir are pretty complexish,

the taxxons were kinda one dimensional until 53 when we find out most of them are just slaves to the hunger

the gedds kinda were tho, just dull pawns really

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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2008, 01:51:00 PM »
The really big, strong, dangerous pacifists with low intelligence who supposedly didn't even know what fighting was until the Yeerks enslaved them. They fight the big dumb fighter cliche pretty well.

I'm no expert on cliches, but the Hork-Bajir seem to be cliche in general.


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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2008, 04:45:01 PM »
I think there is an obvious choice that you all seem to have forgotten. The Skrit Na! They abduct people and other creatures from various planets to put them in alien zoos or perform medical experiments on them, their ships are supposed to be designed in the cliche way, and the Na are described as looking suspiciously like the stereotypical "Grey aliens." How much more cliche can you get? Not that it's a bad thing, I found the Skrit Na to be pretty funny because of their cliche design, since it clashed with the very original design of the other creatures they encountered.

The Pemalites could also be considered slightly cliche in the sense that they were incredibly advanced, but also completely pacifistic by nature. Maybe not cliche, but certainly been done before. Not that I'm complaining, I kinda liked what little we heard about the Pemalites.
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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2008, 04:49:39 PM »
Yeah, the Skrit Na are your steriotypical alien abductors, but of cours their cliche-ness was on purpose. They are possibly the most cliche, because they are meant to be.


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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2008, 04:50:39 PM »
Aren't the Skrit Na ****roach-like?
This great evil - where's it come from?
How'd it steal into the world?
What seed, what root did it grow from?
Who's doing this?
Who's killing us, robbing us of life and light, mocking us with the sight of what we mighta known?
Does our ruin benefit the earth, aid the grass to grow and the sun to shine?  Is this darkness in you, too?  Have you passed through this night?

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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2008, 04:52:36 PM »
Aren't the Skrit Na ****roach-like?
The Skrit are, but the Na stand erect.


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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2008, 04:55:31 PM »
Yes I know they were meant to be, that's why I found them funny.

The Skrit were insect-like, but the Na were more humanoid and were described as being very similar to the cliche Greys.
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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2008, 05:00:15 PM »
The Skirt Na actually seemed to be making fun of the little green men cliche, which is why they only showed up once imo. The Andalites were created to break that cliche.

Saying that though, the biggest cliche to me are the Andalites. Not by their physical appearance (that's actually pretty original), but the fact that they seemed like saints and saviours at first, only for us to find out later on about their arrogance and their double sided objectives.

The Yeerks themselves were also a cliche, seeming all evil at first, and then tugging our heart-strings by revealing to us of their circumstances. Most of the series was cliched as well, right down to the individual Animorphs.

Jake: The all good american hero
Marco: The comical specialist
Ax: the foreign informant/outsider,
Cassie: the pacifist
Rachel: the girl power, tough as nails character.

Then there's also Visser Three, which is like the complete collection of every stereotypical bad guy out there (was there ever actually any sort of depth to him, other than wanting more power? ::))


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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2008, 05:07:28 PM »
Wow, good catch on the Skrit Na.

Good points.

And Visser Three is definitely the most cliched character in the entire series.  The clear "main antagonist" if you will.
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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2008, 05:09:52 PM »
The Hork-Bajir Chronicles may have been mainly used to detail more of the history of the Hork-Bajir, Andalites and Yeerks; but I also found it interesting to see Visser Three's point of view. He's still very cliche, but it was nice to see!
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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2008, 05:14:02 PM »
Visser Three is definitely cliche. He's the typical "I'm so evil that I have no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and I will never change" villain. Someone so destructive that it's a wonder why anyone follows him instead of killing him off.

I know some people have tried to kill Visser Three/have him killed off, like that guy in book eight. However, in real life everyone would just say "Ok, this guy has to die" and kill him during a speech in front of everyone.

But yeah. He's a big cliche.


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Re: Which race seems most cliched?
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2008, 05:39:40 PM »
what's cliched mean?