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Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« on: January 22, 2011, 11:05:54 AM »

Well, we all know Ax instantly dismissed humans learning about Z-space because "they're too inferior, after all" but even when it is revealed that this is not so, and humans really HAVE discovered Z-space, we never learn HOW they did so. Here's my take on it.

Ax messed with Marco's dad's computer in #8. The Alien, so what if, maybe, just maybe, THAT was what helped Marco's dad discover Z-space? I KNOW, the technology was erased later, but they DID have it for a short time, and a LOT of people probably saw it, and Marco's dad is no idiot either. What if that was the reason Z-space was found out? It would make a lot of sense, especially since Ax would have been responsible for a HUGE advancement in human society, one he caused, accidentally yes, but one he still caused.

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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2011, 11:17:38 AM »
I think it's a fair given that Ax's interference had something to do with it. Yes, Marco's dad is a brilliant man and what he did with the information that didn't leave his brain from the moment he saw it was his own doing.

Ax just inadvertantly pushed him in the right direction.

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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 12:52:04 PM »
I think that is part of the reason that Ax WAS so adament about the fact that humans couldn't have discovered Z-space; he knew that if we had done it on our own, he probably played a huge part.
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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2011, 01:07:12 PM »

Ah, I see. A case of self-denial then, eh? ;)

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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2011, 01:08:53 PM »
Precisely!
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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2011, 01:16:02 PM »
That makes sense. And also, it's mentioned in the series that humans advance at crazy fast speeds. I mean, it was just under sixty years from the first flight the first space flight. That probably had something to do with that.

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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2011, 01:33:21 PM »

I've always wondered if there was something like the All Spark in Transformers that humans used to study, and THAT'S the reason they advanced so fast within the last century, because, after all, we've been around for tens of thousands of years, hundreds of thousands, and we've had an organized society since around 5000 B.C., but in all that time, they never ONCE made something resembling a car, a computer, a train, a light bulb, etc?

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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2011, 03:22:25 PM »
Yeah this actually sounds very plausible, I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's how it happened.
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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2011, 03:26:29 PM »
Yeah this actually sounds very plausible, I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's how it happened.

What, the Z space thing or the All spark?

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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2011, 03:26:58 PM »
lol, the Z-space thing.
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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2011, 06:48:22 PM »
Actually I think this has some unfortunate implications. In fact, most of animorphs is full of events where human progress is accelerated by the meddling of other species. Elfangor allegedly invented both windows and the Mac GUI system.

Side note, Steve Wozniak actually did invent a "blue box" which was a device that could hack into the phone system by reproducing specific tones that the phone networks used to control and route phone calls. Its called phreaking.

But this stinks since humans apparently can't create anything on our own in that universe, we need to be given tech by aliens. Why can't we say that humanity is just as powerful as the other races in the galaxy. I always thought that was the point, that humanity could stand its own. Especially since we only win the war with the help of Morphing Tech. Can't we just give Marco's dad this one? I mean Ax "corrected the errors" he didn't create anything new. He just made a really good program for a radio telescope fixing the flaws. It wasn't until afterwords that he realized he could break into Z space if he played with the program a bit.

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Actually I think this has some unfortunate implications. In fact, most of animorphs is full of events where human progress is accelerated by the meddling of other species. Elfangor allegedly invented both windows and the Mac GUI system.

Side note, Steve Wozniak actually did invent a "blue box" which was a device that could hack into the phone system by reproducing specific tones that the phone networks used to control and route phone calls. Its called phreaking.

But this stinks since humans apparently can't create anything on our own in that universe, we need to be given tech by aliens. Why can't we say that humanity is just as powerful as the other races in the galaxy. I always thought that was the point, that humanity could stand its own. Especially since we only win the war with the help of Morphing Tech. Can't we just give Marco's dad this one? I mean Ax "corrected the errors" he didn't create anything new. He just made a really good program for a radio telescope fixing the flaws. It wasn't until afterwords that he realized he could break into Z space if he played with the program a bit.
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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2011, 08:44:15 PM »

I've always wondered if there was something like the All Spark in Transformers that humans used to study, and THAT'S the reason they advanced so fast within the last century, because, after all, we've been around for tens of thousands of years, hundreds of thousands, and we've had an organized society since around 5000 B.C., but in all that time, they never ONCE made something resembling a car, a computer, a train, a light bulb, etc?

 Aliens might have helped us out (according to Animorphs), but you've got to give humanity some credit. It seems as though it wasn't until recently that we've started "acting smart," but that's not the case. Yes, we've been around for thousands of years, but we haven't been sitting around idly. Early humans were incredibly smart because they had to do the things that we take for ganted today. For instance, the water you get from your faucet had to be scooped from a river or a make-shift well. The clothes you wear had to be hand made with no modern machinery. The food that you eat had to be planted, grown, and harvested by tools made out of any materials handy. Just because we didn't invent cars until recently, doesn't mean we were sitting around, twiddling our thumbs; we were busy evolving. We were using parts of our brains that we don't have to use today. We were establishing a path for later generations to walk upon and discover what's really out there.

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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2011, 07:24:44 AM »
But this stinks since humans apparently can't create anything on our own in that universe, we need to be given tech by aliens.

I'm afraid that's a common staple in a lot of science fiction.

In at least three different movies and/or shows velcro was an alien device discovered and/or sold to humanity.

In Star Trek:Voyager, the Internet age only happened because Voyager fell into a time loop caused by a 29t century catastrophy.

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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2011, 12:26:14 PM »

I'm just saying, there's probably been plenty of points throughout history where the technology level was advanced enough to begin building more modern things. The light bulb was invented in the 1800s, as well as trains. Or am I missing something?

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Re: Theory: Why Marco's Dad Discovered Z-Space
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2011, 02:06:58 PM »
Nope, you're definitely on the ball.

Actually, little known fact about Salem, Mass (because people think it's all witches and vampires in this town) is that another famous invention had it's humble beginnings here.

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