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Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« on: August 02, 2008, 06:22:41 AM »
Maybe I completely missed it but could someone clue me in on what made Jake so special to Crayak?

Sure his brother was a Yeerk.  I doubt Crayak cared.

Was it only because the Ellimist took an interest in him?  That seems stupid.

Or are we just supposed to accept that Jake "just is" the crucial player?
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2008, 06:45:06 AM »
It's because Jake was responsible for ruining Crayak's Howlers, or at least that's one of the reasons.

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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2008, 07:45:29 AM »
Jake is the leader of the group that beat his Howlers, which I'm sure were his pride and joy. Much like the Pamelites were to the Ellemist.


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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2008, 09:10:10 AM »
Ok, so he didn't particularly care until they went head-to-head and Jake ruined the howlers.  That makes perfect sense.  Can't believe I missed that.  Thanks all.  ;D
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2008, 10:19:26 AM »
Right, my guess is the Ellimist saw qualities in Jake he liked and decided to make him a focal piece in his strategy, and it was only after the elimist used him and his friends with rgeat succes directly against the Cryak's Howlers that he began to take real notice.
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2008, 11:19:01 AM »
Originally Crayak was just interested in Jake because he was the leader of the resistance against the Yeerks and a part of the Ellimist's plans. After book 26, he started to really hate Jake because he was responsible for destroying the Howlers.
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2008, 11:26:21 AM »
Well one does wonder if eventually there was more to it...

If somehow Jake unwittingly became *the* pivotal piece in the entire 'game'
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2008, 02:42:32 PM »
I always wondered why Jake saw Crayak in book #6, before we even met Ellimist, when the Yeerk was dying in his head.

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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2008, 03:54:04 PM »
I think  that has to due with the Ellimist role in "stacking the deck", (which I live in denial of). Even if Jake was more or less random, the Ellimist role with the group was there at the beginning, back to Elfangor. I forget the whole thing something about "he saw that I made myself know to you"
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I always think it's cool that even though the Ellimist is a bigger presence, we were made actively aware of Crayak first :)
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2008, 04:18:45 PM »
The Ellimist and I have that hobby in common, messing with space-time anomalies and paradoxes.  ::)  >:D

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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2008, 04:57:40 PM »
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I always wondered why Jake saw Crayak in book #6, before we even met Ellimist, when the Yeerk was dying in his head.

The Ellimist explained that when the Yeerk died in Jake's haed, he crossed the point of life and death and was able to see Crayak
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2008, 05:48:24 PM »
Awesome answers, all.  ;D
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2008, 05:58:39 PM »
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I always wondered why Jake saw Crayak in book #6, before we even met Ellimist, when the Yeerk was dying in his head.

The Ellimist explained that when the Yeerk died in Jake's haed, he crossed the point of life and death and was able to see Crayak

That in itself is a terrifying question about the Cryak's position in the grand scheme of things.
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2008, 08:14:15 PM »
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The Ellimist explained that when the Yeerk died in Jake's haed, he crossed the point of life and death and was able to see Crayak
Why Jake though? I would imagine that would make anyone who starves out a Yeerk fall to that condition, but I've never thought of the thing being starved out as:agony agony, quick view of Crayak, agony death.
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Re: Why was Jake so important to Crayak?
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2008, 08:19:46 PM »
agony agony, quick view of Crayak, agony death.

Lol.  Well put.

It's probably a combination of things.  Maybe Crayak was paying closer attention to the Yeerk that just happened to infest the leader of the opposition.
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