GESB: OOC Discussion

[Shenmue654]

Hmm. So now we need to debate how much of the One's trick actually would work on Mar, and how much wouldn't work. I'm thinking that at least some of it has to work, partially for power equality reasons and partially because Mar's current body is 99 percent human. But I'm thinking some of it will not work, largely because the One is making a huge number of incorrect assumptions about what Mar wants based on his experience with humans.

The result might be that Mar is either: (A). Convinced that he has to do what the One says, but absolutely terrified of Him because the One misinterpreted what Mar would see as pleasurable. Tries to get away from him at every possible moment. (B). Convinced that he has to do what the One says, but the one misinterpreted the effect of Mar's very twisted personality on the whole process. Mar creeps on Ike (Interpreting the One as his Father) and becomes as obsessed with "protecting him" as he is with Myitt. XD (C). The process just fails to work completely and Mar knows something is wrong with this picture.

*Ramble complete. Will post on RA now and here again and then not anything for a while* XD

[Chad32]

Access to his memories would help The One figure out what Mar wants. So unless there are parts he can't access, Mar may go with option B. Either A or B could be fun, though. Someone being creepily possessive of Mar could be quite interesting, but I don't want to overwrite Ike's whole character. Maybe The One would bring in someone else to stalk Mar around. It gives more options of how interactions could go than option C, where it just doesn't work at all.

[Shenmue654]

Mar creeps on Ike (Interpreting the One as his Father)

It would end up like this with Option B, not with Ike creeping on Mar but with Mar creeping on Ike. Why? Because hitting that part of Mar's mind would convince Mar that he's back home (Heaven), not that he's away from his Highest self. And that the One, or Ike, has caused this.

But damn, A's fun too. Mar scared and grumblingly obedient is something that's definitely not normal behavior. XDD

Either way you'd end up revealing parts of his mind that he's not normally willing to show at all: His preoccupation with the past, and his own weaknesses and flaws. 

[Chad32]

You of course decide. I hope this is interesting for us, and all who read it.

[Luke Skywalker (Ossanlin)]

Bread and circ...what?  XD XD XD lol

Are you saying that I should start calling Mar "Circus-bread?"  XD

[Shenmue654]

I'd love you forever if you did. XDXD

But no. ;} You could call him Lampshade as an inside inside joke that wouldn't make a lick of sense to you.

~Don't bring that up again.

Too late. But actually, "bread and circuses" is a Roman phrase meaning "Trivial but flashy entertainment, not intellectually stimulating but it satisfies the masses immensely." Think reality TV shows, or bad advertisements with smiling sexy women for vacuum cleaners, or modern day action movies. In theology anyway, the principle of evil is often associated with transparent, selfish, fleeting pleasure. In Buddhism it definitely was, in the sense of worldly pleasures that disguised or kept one away from Enlightenment.

All of this makes more sense when you realize that in Roman times a "circus" actually referred to an incredibly showy chariot race in a circular arena.

[Luke Skywalker (Ossanlin)]

I have never once heard that particular turn of phrase.  Hmmm...  *watches as the little "The more you know..." star passes over your head*

[Shenmue654]

....I feel bad for him here, actually. Mar (The real guy) interjected stating that what would most likely happen to the character was a modified Option B--- That is, the One would get what it wants but not as it expects. Mar's Highest self would so desperately want the One's deception to be real that it would allow itself to pretend it was through Mar.

All of the modifications would work, but in whatever way would most make sense to Mar's mind.....like Ike thinking the One was the Christian God. But that means.......things. And it's unknown how this'll all play out.

[Chad32]

Well I'm glad Mar's Highest is amused by this, instead of offended or something.

[Shenmue654]

Amused, but....more than anything desperate. Desperate for even a false return to the way things once were. It must be a bit, to the Prince, like playing out an escapist fantasy for a few hours in order to run away from how ****ty his life is. A fantasy Mar has played out a dozen times in his head, using the One's greed as fuel for it.

Dammit, I got distracted from studying by Roleplay. Bad Kelly. -___-; 

[Chad32]

Now I feel bad for the guy, from the way you describe it.

[Shenmue654]

Elriss barks out a short laugh in spite of herself. She's clearly still tense, speaking to an Andalite, but she's beginning to feel more in control of the situation, and it shows in her posture.

Temser. Temser. Be the Temser.

XD The chant in Lumy's post here reminded me of a Roleplay I recently created, and one of its funnier inside jokes. My friend's challenge request for that Roleplay was "Make me a soldier in an Evil Empire."

Now when you're in an Evil Empire or hell any Empire, there must be some kind of weird rule about all military conduct having to look super intimidating and cool. Real militaries are these incredibly miserable, walking-through-mud bad cafeteria type places....but to their enemies an Empire wants to look like some kind of invincible proud impossibility of an army. Rome was notorious for this effect.

So the joke was that after the new recruits see all the miraculous publicity stunts, finding out how much being in an army really sucks feels like finding out there's no Santa Claus as a kid.

My mental image was immediately of Elriss chanting "There is a Santa Claus. There is a Santa Claus." X)

[Chad32]

That's chuckle worthy.

[Gaz]

Hey guys! Popping into the main thread long enough to deliver a message from Morgan. He promised he would let people know once he discovered the truth about his past.

[Chad32]

I think it was that someone the half animal people are born that way, and not an experiment? I forget how the discussion went between him and the half horse.

Good to see you around again Gaz.