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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4020 on: February 20, 2012, 12:50:52 AM »
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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4021 on: February 20, 2012, 09:54:47 AM »
I'm sorry, I thought they were inside. Maybe he saw it through a window. Otherwise I'll edit. also Jacun has been armed ever since Rathien attacked. He had the rifle when Myitt splashed him. The only difference is a new shirt and jeans.


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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4022 on: February 20, 2012, 04:42:35 PM »
Okay, I'll make an adjustment to my post. Ironically, this new development made Parker more suspicious Jocun.
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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4023 on: February 20, 2012, 05:42:44 PM »
Your explanation is rather confusing. I'll re-read it when I get home.

Haha. Sorry. Short version: titanium (and therefore SPARTAN armor) blocks Salem's fancy-pants EM field, but Salem wasn't expecting to run into titanium because the same property that allows it to block the field also makes it a liability, in that it can be made to explode, so it has no real practical application where Salem's from.

Longer version: Salem's EM field oscillates between two planes of existence- one in our universe, with our laws of force, and one in what could be seen as another dimension, with different forces. The patches project two sub-fields of force- one in each "dimension." Each field pushes the main EM field into the other plane of existence, causing the oscillation, and rendering traditional EM shielding useless or at least less effective, since the electromagnetic radiation is phased into existence within vulnerable components regardless of shielding and grounding. The titanium blocks the sub-field in the other dimension, so the sub-field in our dimension simply pushes the electromagnetic radiation out of our realm of existence within the confines of the titanium object, with nothing present to bring it back to our dimension. Sorta makes Salem's EM field more useless against Parker than normal EM radiation, actually.

The property of the titanium that allows it to block the field means that an inverse, much stronger version of the field can be used to "pull" the titanium into the other dimension- it would appear to simply phase out of existence. Alloys contain small amounts of other elements. The phasing of the titanium tends to rend a lot of the alloy's electrons from our dimension as well, leaving behind extremely positively-charged dissociated atoms of other metals- enough charge to propel many of them away from each other, resulting in something between a weak explosion and a mini lightning strike, caused by the disappearance of the very stuff designed to protect against that kind of thing. Depending on how the field is exerted when phasing the titanium, additional heat can be added to the mixture, making it even more dangerous. Ergo, titanium is a liability, and not useful for military applications in Salem's time. Ergo, he was not expecting to encounter it.

Sorry if it's still confusing >.<

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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4024 on: February 20, 2012, 08:14:20 PM »
Okay, it sounds like your saying the EM patch would force the titanium in Parker's armor to phase out, thereby weakening his armor as well as producing an explosion inside his suit.

But then you say that Salem's EM patch is more useless against Parker; causing Parker's armor to explode seems really useful against him. That in itself is confusing.

So are you saying I should avoid those EM fields in the future?
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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4025 on: February 21, 2012, 04:00:51 AM »
Parker, I think Scott is saying that a stronger field modified for the purpose would have that effect on Titanium.  His EM patch was so weak that it had no effect at all.

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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4026 on: February 21, 2012, 04:14:23 AM »
Ah, okay. That makes more sense then. Thanks Luke.
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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4027 on: February 21, 2012, 12:41:00 PM »
Yeah, what Luke said. Sorry, the society Salem's originally from is... ridiculously more advanced than your standard sci-fi society, but Salem would be really boring to me if he had full access to all of their technological advancements. There are certain things (Salem's lack of teleporters, internal neurological communications, personal shielding, whatever the reason was for Parker's being completely unaffected by the EM field, and a number of others) that I have to explain away with plot devices or whatever. Salem's been on a pretty long journey to end up at the bar, so it's typically not hard to find some way of explaining everything- just requires some thought.

No worries on the field thing- Salem won't be using it against Parker any time soon. He's not exactly expecting to wind up fighting Parker, and even if he was, he probably wouldn't see the effort needed to produce such a field to be worthwhile (he's not equipped to do so as we speak). Parker is safe from explosing armors. It's just the explanation I came up with. *shrug*
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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4028 on: February 21, 2012, 12:45:28 PM »
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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4029 on: February 21, 2012, 01:18:43 PM »
By the by, Salem's ship scans passively. Probably nothing for Thor to detect. The entire hull acts as both a collector and emitter of all types of energy, giving it crazy-awesome resolution, and normally no need for active scanning. Also eliminates the need for separate imaging, propulsion, weapons, shielding, communications and armor systems- they're all handled by the hull. Also renders the ship very stealthy- not the same active cloaking you see in Star Trek, for example, but something more akin to the stealth aircraft of today; just very difficult to detect. Energy absorbed by the hull, if dissipated quickly enough (like, not energy from being shot at), can be channeled and stored for later use. I'd say it would reduce the stress on the power core, but the core must always produce energy at its maximum capacity- anything less will cause it to decay by its very nature. Green energy requires carrying big batteries in Salem's time, apparently.

So, yeah, I tend to try to keep Salem off his ship, if at all possible. It's elegant and gorgeous, yes, but too much for this bar. On the other hand, I'm sure Al'd love to use it for a party. Combination intricate light/laser show and extremely high-fidelity speaker? Yeah, it'd be fun.

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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4030 on: February 21, 2012, 03:51:58 PM »
I figured that when you zoomed in to see the composition of his armor, a more intense scan was made. So you're saying your ship's passive scan gives you the composition of everything nearby?
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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4031 on: February 21, 2012, 10:47:00 PM »
To a point, yeah. Real space materials are the easy ones, and composition is just sort of the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what Salem's ship is monitoring. It's just one of the details Salem noticed on his readout.

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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4032 on: February 21, 2012, 11:45:11 PM »
Okay, edited out.
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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4033 on: February 22, 2012, 10:54:18 AM »
So I'm going to probably end up minorly stalking everybody to keep track of Jocun
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Re: GESB: OOC Discussion
« Reply #4034 on: February 24, 2012, 02:42:55 PM »
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