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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2010, 04:43:38 PM »
That might be partly why they decided to worship the One. They were all about to starve to death because they were running out of Kandrona. And then in their time of greatest desperation, a powerful being offered them a way out.


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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2010, 10:07:22 PM »
Actually the animorphs article one wikipedia said it had to do with something that absorbed the Ellimist (turns out the bits about the ending with total bull some moron made up).

The problem with the one is that we know so little about it that we can only guess at what it is. Analyzing the animorphs is like trying to analyze a sitcom, their are masses of contradictions and things that don't make sense in the real world.

The only thing we can be sure of is that the one has a source of Kandrona as the yeerk homeworld was taken and all the other yeerks became nothlits. The one could produce kandrona naturally and the Yeerks came to worship it like the ancient cultures worshiped the sun.

Once again that is just my best guess.

Where in any of the books does it say that the yeerks were all forced to become nothlits? Or even that the homeworld was totally conqured by the andalites? People really count the yeerks out at the end of the series, but they owned several other planets. Although the loss of earth would have hurt them really badly, it doesn't mean the empire instantly crumbled and stopped existing.

As for the one and the yeerks worshiping it, no where in the book does it even imply that all the yeerks worship it, just the ones that where on the blade ship.
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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2010, 10:09:09 PM »
The ones on the bladeship were the ones I was talking about.


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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2010, 10:31:25 PM »
Where in any of the books does it say that the yeerks were all forced to become nothlits? Or even that the homeworld was totally conqured by the andalites? People really count the yeerks out at the end of the series, but they owned several other planets. Although the loss of earth would have hurt them really badly, it doesn't mean the empire instantly crumbled and stopped existing.

I don't know about the other stuff, but the yeerk homeworld has been totally conquered by the andalites since before the war.  After the first yeerks escaped, the andalites blockaded the planet.  The yeerks were never able to retake it, and in The Beginning, Ax says that the homeworld is still under blockade 3 years after the end of the war on Earth.

People forget this a lot, and it kind of bugs me.  Admittedly, even Applegrant have forgotten this a few times.  For instance, early in The Beginning it mentions that some yeerk ships contacted the homeworld and were told to fight.

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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2010, 10:36:16 PM »
I thought that the andalites had just blockaded the home world? I got the feeling that the andalites had been driven off the surface by yeerk attacks in The Hork-bajir Chronicles?
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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2010, 12:13:42 AM »
While we know the Homeworld was blockaded (at least at times), we also know that it's possible for Yeerks to get in and out of the blockade. Edriss has no trouble with it in Visser, for example, or at any other time. Maybe the Andalite blockade had to be lifted at some point during the war and was reestablished some time afterwards. In any case, it is pretty clear that yeerks can infiltrate and exfiltrate their homeworld, as well as send and receive messages.

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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2010, 01:40:49 AM »
While we know the Homeworld was blockaded (at least at times), we also know that it's possible for Yeerks to get in and out of the blockade. Edriss has no trouble with it in Visser, for example, or at any other time. Maybe the Andalite blockade had to be lifted at some point during the war and was reestablished some time afterwards. In any case, it is pretty clear that yeerks can infiltrate and exfiltrate their homeworld, as well as send and receive messages.

Huh?  When in Visser did Edriss ever go to the yeerk homeworld?  Doing a quick Ctrl-F through the e-book, the only time the yeerk homeworld is ever mentioned is when she says that she named her daughter after one of its moons.

I'm pretty sure that the yeerks never communicate with, much less go to, their homeworld after the first ones leave.  The Council of Thirteen is scattered throughout space, and the Hork-Bajir and Taxxon worlds are their biggest strongholds.  So, even if they could get through the blockade, there wouldn't be much of a reason to.  This is pretty consistent throughout the series, and anything that indicates otherwise is probably a KASU.

And yes, the Andalites probably don't have much of a presence on the surface of the yeerk homeworld.  However, the yeerks there are still cut off from the rest of the universe, including the empire started by their brothers.  On an interplanetary scale, the planet is effectively under Andalite control.

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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2010, 11:19:10 AM »
I wonder why the Andalites don't just zap it out of existence or something. Ax said once that the Yeerks could just incinerate Earth with high powered Dracon beams if they felt like it. Or why can't they just extinguish it with a virus like the Hork-Bajir world? Seems kinda stupid to just hang out above the homeworld not doing anything.

And no, the ex-Visser One never visited the homeworld in Visser.

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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2010, 03:48:31 PM »
Well, I imagine that the andalite civilians would frown on committing genocide, especially against people that really aren't a threat to them.  Alloran ended up disgraced for his actions on the hork-bajir world, remember.

Besides, all that would accomplish is prevent the empire from ever taking more yeerks from their homeworld.  And from what we've seen, the empire's supply of hosts has been shorter than its supply of yeerks for a long time.

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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2010, 07:24:20 PM »
They were planning on wiping out Earth the same way towards the end though. Does it matter if they're not a threat? I thought Andalites had some sort of primal hatred for Yeerks regardless. If the Andalites had just wiped out the homeworld they would have had a greater force to combat the Yeerks with. I doubt all they had up floating above planet Yeerk was just a few fighters. They probably had a Dome ship or something up there. Otherwise I think it would be child's play to just send, say, a Blade ship over there and wipe the Andalite force out. I just think the Andalites were wasting their forces by monitoring the Yeerk planet 24/7.

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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2010, 11:19:57 PM »
The andalite military was planning on wiping out Earth towards the end of the series.  Once they realized that the electorate was watching, they changed their plans pretty quickly.  It would be very hard to wipe out the yeerk homeworld without anyone noticing.

I'm sure that some andalites have a "primal hatred" for yeerks, but that doesn't seem to apply to most of them.  In The Andalite Chronicles, Elfangor vehemently refused to kill defenseless yeerks.  When he returns to the fleet at the end of the book, the commander says that he was right to do this, even though it led to Alloran being infested.

Also, frying the homeworld wouldn't just kill yeerks.  The gedds would also be wiped out, and the implication is that they're mostly involuntary hosts.

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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2010, 11:40:42 PM »
Ooh. Forgot about the Gedds. Although they were barely sentient in the first place. Okay so scratch blowing it up, but couldn't they have spared some forces from the Yeerk planet? Or maybe they did. It's not really stated in the series.

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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2010, 11:21:40 AM »
I always wondered alot about the emporer of the yeerk empire, what host he had or where he was, did we ever hear anymore about him other than the fact that his identity was a closely gaurded yeerk secret? I would have guessed Akdor, but he was killed.
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Re: The One [spoilers]
« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2014, 09:35:24 AM »
the one could very well be father, remember the Ellimist absorbs him, then splits himself into hundreds or thousands of ships, what's to say at least one section didn't go in the black hole or get shot by Crayak, and had fathers mind in it? Then it would do what it did on his original moon, only now he has a spacefaring body and weapons to help him(it) along.