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Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« on: June 10, 2009, 12:06:59 PM »
Was that explained? What benefit was there for Visser One? What disadvantage was there for her if she didn't fake Eva's death? Couldn't she have just gone out to a remote place, let the fighter pick her up, and leave?

Actually, I think the storm mentioned might have been coincidental. She was planning to go out that day, regardless of any storms.


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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2009, 03:21:49 PM »
I believe it was stated that it was to rid of any suspicion of her disappearance. As for the storm being coincidental, I don't recall that so nothing to say about that...

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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2009, 07:00:51 PM »
if she simply vanished then there is hope of solving the case finding a body. Lists are made of people she knew list is made of people that act strange. every few years the case could be revisited photos passed around. If all the people on those lists are full members of the sharing alarm bells go off if she visits earth again unless she locks herself in the yeerk pool people could id her and raise more alarms.

By vanishing at sea everyone looks around for a few days then its 'too bad so sad' another body never found and the whole thing is case closed and filed away forever soon forgotten by all but two people on earth that she knows the location of.

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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2009, 07:57:27 PM »
Yeah, it could be to help keep people from finding out anything about the Sharing. That's a good point.


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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2009, 08:08:21 PM »
Actually, I think the storm mentioned might have been coincidental. She was planning to go out that day, regardless of any storms.

Or perhaps she had planned to leave that day because of the stormy weather? I always assumed that she purposely faked her death to prevent people getting suspicious about her disappearance.
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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2009, 08:20:27 PM »
My memory is a bit foggy in regards to the weather, so I won't bet money on it. Especially since there have been other times Morfowt contradicted me, and was correct.


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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2009, 09:05:42 AM »
Well when you're about to become the supreme overlord of the entire imperial army and navy you've every right to call the bug fighter whenever you choose, so I think she probably had a certain window of time like say "Report to the mother ship for reassignment within ten earth days" and then there just happened to be a storm on, say, the fifth so she said "dude, sweet!" and went out.

However I believe she mentiones in Visser that the storm was indeed a lucky coincidence, I'm sure she would have left with or without it, it just made things convenient for her so she took advantage of it. I believe she would have faked her death with the boat one way or another as that was, at least in part, the reason she got the boat.

Personally I think the bigger question is why Eva in the first place? We get a decent enough explanation in Visser but really if Eva knew anything why not kill her and swap over to a voluntary before leaving the planet? A voluntary host's death can be faked just as easily as an involuntary, did Visser One just want the amusement of a struggling mind?
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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2009, 10:40:24 AM »
well how to you explain that you want a new voluntary host because you dont like how yours struggles? not very top dog of her, cant be showing weakness like that

yea the storm gives some credibility to the crash but at the same time the whole family was like wtf is she doing going sailing in the middle of a storm lol

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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2009, 11:19:50 AM »
I don't think she was too worried about Eva's resistatnce. She had such a firm hold on Eva, that the woman couldn't even regain temporary control of her body when she mistakenly thought Marco had been taken by the Yeerks in book 15. And V1 did say she recognized Marco, and was crying out for him.


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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2009, 05:08:56 PM »
I think it was because she was clever:  she wanted to leave no body behind, a viable excuse for there to be no body and no investigation.  Plus I think she wanted an excuse to use a sailboat one last time :P


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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2009, 06:40:12 PM »
Why didn't she just switch host's though? I have always wondered if Eva was a useful host. Also I wonder about Visser One's relationship with Marco.
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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2009, 10:11:18 PM »
She was probably quite nice to Marco in the year and a half (I think) that she had Eva. Just like how Peter said they never argued or anything. Visser One didn't want to have any problems, so she wouldn't argue with her husband, and she probably acted the ideal mother for Marco. Unlike Iniss, who doesn't care to act the ideal father in front of Mellissa.


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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2009, 09:07:27 AM »
Actually Iniss 226 might not be so much not caring about being the ideal father because he does, after all, have to fool Melissa, but he is probably incapable of feeling any sort of affection for the girl, he also, probably, sees her as a nuisance since she's the only non-controller in the house and Chapman has made it clear as early as book 2 that she'd best be remaining that way or there'll be trouble, so Iniss probably blames her for things like not being able to talk freely, or even having to play human at all when he's in the privacy of the Chapman home.

Visser One on the other hand had kids of her own and had been a human controller much longer, I'd imagine her the better actress, and she says she chose Eva in part because she was a mother so she probably wanted to play mother with Marco since she couldn't have direct contact with her own kids. In book 2 Rachel says the Chapmans are saying the right words but they're not feeling them, so that might be the problem, maybe if Marco had been older he would have noticed a problem with his mother.
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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2009, 06:40:03 PM »
Yeah. If it had gone on longer, Marco may have begun to get suspicious. Maybe Peter too. Maybe not.

I wonder where she hid the Kandrona device.


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Re: Why did V1 care about faking Eva's death, anyway?
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2015, 11:48:42 PM »
Actually Iniss 226 might not be so much not caring about being the ideal father because he does, after all, have to fool Melissa, but he is probably incapable of feeling any sort of affection for the girl, he also, probably, sees her as a nuisance since she's the only non-controller in the house and Chapman has made it clear as early as book 2 that she'd best be remaining that way or there'll be trouble, so Iniss probably blames her for things like not being able to talk freely, or even having to play human at all when he's in the privacy of the Chapman home.

Why can't Iniss 226 just tap into Mr. Chapman's memories of how he showed affection towards Melissa?  I'm sure that Chapman would be glad to show Iniss those memories!