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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2009, 03:15:38 PM »
Exactly.  It kind of reminds me of an episode of Doctor Who.  Without going too much into the plot, an alien race tried to override the human brain and have various humans jump off a building.  The instinct to survive, however, was too strong.

I think instincts are so deeply ingrained into humans humans that it is very nearly impossible, if not entirely, to shut that down.
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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2009, 04:33:29 PM »
Why were you kept for drinking, if you'll excuse off topicness?
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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2009, 05:54:49 PM »
Because of a surgical operation they needed to do on me...

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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2009, 06:20:53 PM »
I'm pretty well convinced, so I guess there isn't much left to discuss. Trying it wouldn't work, especially since he didn't even start out doing it.
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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2009, 02:25:50 AM »
I kind of wonder why he didn't do more to ruin Jake though, I mean he could have trapped Jake as a fly when he knew he was going down too, he might even have thought doing so would save his life, there was a  Yeerk in one of the last books that begged to be allowed to become a nothlit (Then got killed) so its clear that at least that Yeerk wasn't totally sure whether or not he could evade starvation that way, it seems odd that Jake's head buddy didn't even consider it. And what would the others have done if he said "I may not get far as a fly, but unless you get me to a yeerk pool in two hours Jake here won't get to be anything but a fly, bwahaha!"
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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2009, 09:13:32 AM »
Quote from: JFalcon on April 19, 2009, 02:25:50 AM
I kind of wonder why he didn't do more to ruin Jake though, I mean he could have trapped Jake as a fly when he knew he was going down too, he might even have thought doing so would save his life, there was a  Yeerk in one of the last books that begged to be allowed to become a nothlit (Then got killed) so its clear that at least that Yeerk wasn't totally sure whether or not he could evade starvation that way, it seems odd that Jake's head buddy didn't even consider it.
well it's never actually confirmed, but it's believed that the yeerk in book 52 was a morph-capable yeerk, not a yeerk inside a morph-capable human.
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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2009, 09:25:28 AM »
It wasn't confirmed if Rachel killed it either.

Morphing a fly and threatening to force Jake to become a nothlit is a much more practical thing to do. Good thing he didn't try that either!
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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2009, 03:02:54 PM »
Hmm, I wasn't aware of the morph-capable Yeerk theory, even so I'm surprised the Yeerk in Jake's head, for all his alleged intellect was so determined not to ruin his host that taking him down with him or at least threatening to, never occured to him. Maybe he thought he'd be rescued even to the end, maybe he just figured the Animorphs wouldn't be swayed by such a threat since no Yeerk would.

Or maybe he was just so scared, alone and afraid. Maybe he didn't wish Jake any ill will since he was dying. Maybe in the end we're not so different after all . . . all just frightened little creatures who want nothing more or less than our freedom and prosperity even at the expense of others and--HAH, you're a fly forever now Jake, take that! You won't be a thorn in Visser Three's side anymore!
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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2009, 06:31:30 PM »
I'm actually more dissatisfied that Jake didn't try harder to make the others know what happened to him
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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2009, 07:14:34 PM »
There are very few cases of hosts breaking free of Yeerk control, even for a moment. And even then, it's only in the most desperate circumstances that it happens. If it wasn't almost impossible to do it, then the Yeerks wouldn't be able to keep the secret very well.
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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2009, 09:01:22 PM »
I think the Yeerks think differently than us. Their incentives for doing things are largely for their own gain. I mean, they're society is built like that! Maximize your own utility at the expense of others. I mean, they're naturally born to do that. A little different than our society.

 As for instincts and all that. Yeah, human will is too strong to kill. ...that's why you help it kill itself. Surprisingly what your body can do to itself when it simply doesn't have a will to live anymore.
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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2009, 04:42:31 PM »
Quote from: Chad28 on April 21, 2009, 07:14:34 PM
There are very few cases of hosts breaking free of Yeerk control, even for a moment. And even then, it's only in the most desperate circumstances that it happens. If it wasn't almost impossible to do it, then the Yeerks wouldn't be able to keep the secret very well.

That wasn't really what I ment. Jake knew that it could happen but he didn't evev try.
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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2009, 04:58:16 PM »
How can you say he didn't try? He clearly wanted to tell Cassie and the others that something was wrong.
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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2009, 06:21:16 PM »
... Maybe I need to read this one again, I can't remember what you are telling me.
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Re: So it's a good thing the Yeerk let Jake eat in book 6.
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2009, 06:26:52 PM »
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I wanted to tell them both. To scream "They have me! They are inside me!" But I couldn't make
my mouth move. It was like there was a roadblock. Like I could form the thoughts, give the
order to my lips and tongue to speak, but the order never got there.
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