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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2008, 12:57:59 PM »
Thank you Esplin ;D

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One other i can think of is that Elfangor didn't know morphing heals injuries. Morphing technology is pretty new at the time. In fact, only the Animorphs exploited this part of morphing. Andalites and (Yeerks) used the morphing power mostly for stealth and raw power only (See: Visser Three).

How is the morphing technology new at that time?
Elfangor went down in the nineties; probably 95-96.
Aldrea was morphing in HBC which was the 1960's
Morphing is about as old as the moon landing; I think they'd understand it's healing effects, especially since the Animorphs realized this in a number of weeks at the most.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2008, 01:29:48 PM »
He said specifically that he was too weak to morph.  True, the Animorphs have morphed out of worse.  However, the Animorphs were WAY more practiced at morphing, which takes energy, than any millitary Andalite.  If morphing was running, the Animorphs are hard core marine sprinter/marathon runners, and most Andalites are casual joggers.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2008, 03:07:19 PM »
what i don't get is how it happened, or more like why. cuz when he got injured, why didn't he just morph into sumthing, anything, and then demorph, and he woulda been healed. instead, he wasted time looking for the time matrix. i mean, i don't buy the whole "he was too injured" thing, cuz the animorphs have been in way worse shape then a burn on their side, and managed to morph. i don't see how if elfangor is morph capable he could have been dying.

Back up there for a second. He did NOT was time looking for the time matrix. In the end he's just one soldier, but the time matrix is the most powerful weapon in the universe, the side which can controls it can easily turn the tide of the war.
As to the morphing question, I don't think any of us know enough about Andalite physiology to comment on the severity of his injuries. Maybe, for whatever reason, he was unable to morph. Plus there wouldn't have been the time to do what you were suggesting. If he had morphed then demorphed then he would have been surrounded by Yeerks and Visser 3, a hopeless situation.

at the end of the AC, it says elfangor was looking for the time matrix for one last desperate hope to save himself (obvious paraphrasing here). so he coulda been morphing on the way down to earth instead.

like with mertil, they ask why he didnt just morph to save his tail, member? so it is possible to morph and demorph to heal injuries, or in 42, when rachel is burned by marco's stomach acid, she morphs grizzly, then demorphs.

  i think its a KASU, like with jake thought speaking as a human in book 1. she proly didn't think to use morphing as a way to heal one's self till later. so all ppl who said that, it makes sense
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2008, 03:39:46 PM »
In the AC Elfangor sorta goes through this process of blindly following Andalite military culture to seeing the larger, grittier, cosmic scope of things, eventually becoming a sorta modernist hero(my US lit knowledge is showing), so he learns to think for himself and accept what he can't control. He also knew a little from the Ellimist what was going to happen. I think that's why he didn't morph out, he knew he was basically toast-but then he saw the kids, realized the purpose of the situation, and figured he should give them the cube.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2008, 04:03:07 PM »
The Ellimist didn't give him back his morphing powers, possibly? He had been a nothlit, after all.

Most likely, though, it's a KASU that needs some fanwanking.

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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2008, 04:45:38 PM »
remember also that Andalites rarely use morphing tech. So all the members of the military may just be oblivious to the benefits of morphing. Remember, the animorphs were really the only ones to take it to its full potential.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2008, 04:50:25 PM »
Ok, stupid question time, what does KASU stand for?
Estrid, fair point about the time matrix, it's been a while since I read the AC so I can;t remember exactly what was said.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2008, 04:52:32 PM »
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2008, 04:55:52 PM »
Not to be confused with KAFU ::).
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2008, 05:15:51 PM »
ok another stupid question: what's KAFU?

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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2008, 12:30:17 AM »
KAFU same as KASU, except the F is a worse wrd ::)


and the andalite scientists 40 + yrs after developing morphing tech shoulda had SOME idea of its benefits :-\
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2008, 04:46:46 AM »
Okay guys, finding a realistic answer is better than just stamping it off as a KASU, right? Plus, that scene was recreated at TAC, so it couldn't possibly be a KASU. I mean, recreating the error is just wrong.

The simple answer might be that he was too weak to morph. By the way, Mertil was somehow incapable of getting the morphing power, i think.

Morphing needs energy, and Elfangor probably worn all of it. He must be pained to death by that time.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2008, 04:54:16 AM »
didn't it say somewhere (I think #50) that mertil was allergic to the morphing power and couldn't receive it?

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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2008, 05:02:14 AM »
Yes! Now I remember the reason of him being incapable of morphing... but still, he could be of use as a pilot. Mertil, as I've read is a very skilled pilot, right? Andalites just view vecols as.... i don't know... different.

Kind of like humans treat handicaps. And humans deny the fact that we treat them differently. Ax pointed it out innocently.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2008, 06:58:59 PM »
what i ment by mertil as an example was, that if he HAD been able to morph, he coulda morphed to heal his tail. the only reason he didn't was cuz he is allergic to the tech. but my point is is even with grave injuries, andalites can still morph to heal themselves, so long as they are morph capable. so why didn't elfangor? that def needed to be explained better :-\
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