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Offline estrid

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Elfangor's death
« on: June 09, 2008, 12:03:53 AM »
what i don't get is how it happened, or more like why. cuz when he got injured, why didn't he just morph into sumthing, anything, and then demorph, and he woulda been healed. instead, he wasted time looking for the time matrix. i mean, i don't buy the whole "he was too injured" thing, cuz the animorphs have been in way worse shape then a burn on their side, and managed to morph. i don't see how if elfangor is morph capable he could have been dying.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2008, 12:10:11 AM »
...well I think it has something to do with the "will to keep fighting thing".  The andalites...well they aren't known for fighting till the very end. He probably thought that the burn was so severe, there was nothing he could do about it.

Or it could be he didn't have enough time to morph and demorph, although I kinda doubt that.

Yeah, lame answer, but I couldn't think of a better one.

The real answer is probably K.A. didn't think of morphing healing injuries till #4.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2008, 12:24:44 AM »
maybe elfangor didnt know about morphing injuries, AC is a little hazy, but did he do any of it before? and morphing tech was still a little unknown maybe the andalites didnt really know much about that

or, maybe he saw that his timeline ended at that point and didnt try to change destiny

or, maybe he was just like okay this is a badass way to die, i think ill go with this

but andalites are def the kind of people to go down fighting, so thats def not the reason
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2008, 12:38:33 AM »
Um...yea. i have absolutely no idea. KASU?
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2008, 12:44:35 AM »
I would like to call into question the severity of his injures; it had to be more than just a burn. I mean, he couldn't be hit directly and his ship was still in good enough shape to touch down. We don't really know how bad he was hurt.
Plus morphing takes energy; after a space fight, seeing his whole fleet ( and assuming that his brother) are blasted to ash, getting banged up and crash landing on Earth; he couldn't even stand up till the last throw down.
Between that and his injuries I think he has a decent excuse to not be able to, or try, a morph
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2008, 05:14:18 AM »
Quote from: estrid on June 09, 2008, 12:03:53 AM
what i don't get is how it happened, or more like why. cuz when he got injured, why didn't he just morph into sumthing, anything, and then demorph, and he woulda been healed. instead, he wasted time looking for the time matrix. i mean, i don't buy the whole "he was too injured" thing, cuz the animorphs have been in way worse shape then a burn on their side, and managed to morph. i don't see how if elfangor is morph capable he could have been dying.

Back up there for a second. He did NOT was time looking for the time matrix. In the end he's just one soldier, but the time matrix is the most powerful weapon in the universe, the side which can controls it can easily turn the tide of the war.
As to the morphing question, I don't think any of us know enough about Andalite physiology to comment on the severity of his injuries. Maybe, for whatever reason, he was unable to morph. Plus there wouldn't have been the time to do what you were suggesting. If he had morphed then demorphed then he would have been surrounded by Yeerks and Visser 3, a hopeless situation.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2008, 05:27:07 AM »
yes, there are possible theories, one is the time.... it takes several minutes to morph and demorph, and by that time, the Animorphs would be pretty much scared just watching the morphing process. Also, by that time, The yeerks will find him. Well, he probably thought it would take less time to just give the power to 5 kids.

One other i can think of is that Elfangor didn't know morphing heals injuries. Morphing technology is pretty new at the time. In fact, only the Animorphs exploited this part of morphing. Andalites and (Yeerks) used the morphing power mostly for stealth and raw power only (See: Visser Three).
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2008, 05:31:19 AM »
actually, it'd only take a total of about 4 minutes only. two minutes to morph, two minutes to demorph.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2008, 05:33:08 AM »
Well, the time it took to talk to 5 terrified kids might take less, right? Plus, after morphing and demorphing, he have had to talk to these five kids, knowing that one of them is his son. That would take to much time. Also, he was injured, morphing takes concentration and energy, and the injury might make him morph a bit longer....
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2008, 05:38:44 AM »
talking to five kids, not really. they might not believe him, like marco did, and might take longer.

No, he doesn't necessarily have to talk to his son, and besides he could just say it in thought-speech while morphing.

that last part, I'll buy.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2008, 06:11:09 AM »
Quote from: RYTX on June 09, 2008, 12:44:35 AM
I would like to call into question the severity of his injures; it had to be more than just a burn. I mean, he couldn't be hit directly and his ship was still in good enough shape to touch down. We don't really know how bad he was hurt.
Plus morphing takes energy; after a space fight, seeing his whole fleet ( and assuming that his brother) are blasted to ash, getting banged up and crash landing on Earth; he couldn't even stand up till the last throw down.
Between that and his injuries I think he has a decent excuse to not be able to, or try, a morph

im gonna say you nailed it.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2008, 09:49:06 AM »
Elfangor had to die, this was crucial to the plot, perhaps the ellimist had told him he was to die and that's why he didn't bother to morph
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2008, 09:56:52 AM »
Not enough time to morph, demorph, tell the kids what they need to know, and give them the morphing cube.

Sure it's BS, but that's the explanation that always worked for me.

Edit: I just remembered something. Some other things in the first book ended up not being true (out of morph thought speak) so it's possible that the 'too weak to morph' thing was changed.

Also, has there ever even been a time where they were about to die when they were out of morph? Cause it might be that demorphing is easier then morphing.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2008, 10:15:01 AM »
Well, Elfangor probably needed to stay in his Andalite body to bring the ship down to land. By that time, he saw the kids and probably figured that this was his chance to pass on to Earth a chance for survival, he had seen what human kids were capable of beforehand.
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Re: Elfangor's death
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2008, 10:57:05 AM »
Here's a question, did he still have his human morph? Cause...

Wait, no! I'll save that idea for a fan fic! Yay!

I'll tell anyone who asks nicely.
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