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Reduce the book number
« on: January 02, 2009, 11:36:47 PM »
Would it be possible to shorten the series length? I mean, apparently everyone hates the ghostwritten ones, or at least think they aren't the best. So here is what I propose. If a series re-release were to happen, at what books could you just take out of the series completely and make it so it ran for about 30 books give or take a few. Did the ghosties have anything that contributed to the plot ever?
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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2009, 11:38:19 PM »
People don't hate ALL the ghostwritten ones. Some are actually VERY good.

And it's not that they were ghostwritten, its just they were bad. Some of K.A.'s weren't all that good either.

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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2009, 11:42:46 PM »
I only hate the ones who's plots have been used before , like #39. That's the only one I don't really like. the others, except #24 and, to a lesser extent, #42 (although the reasons are a bit more personal. I hate the helmacrons),  I like.

so the only books I would take out are #39, and #24. #42...well I don't like the helmacrons but the idea of going inside marco was pretty good.

though if I had to shorten to about 30 books...
#1 (the first book, duh)
#4 (they meet ax)
#5 (they meet visser one)
#7 (they meet the ellimist)
#8 (seerow's kindness)
#10 (the chee)
#13 (tobias gets his morphing powers back)
#19 (the ypm)
#20 (they get the blue box)
#21 (and of course if you have 20, you need 21 and 22)
#22
#23 (elfangor is tobias's father)
#26 (they meet crayak)
#45 (beginning of the final arc, and marco's dad finds out, and get marco's mom back)
#49 (the yeerks find out they're humans)
#50 (the auxiliaries)
#51 (the governor)
#52 (destroy the yeerk pool)
#53 (second to last book)
#54 (last book)
no megamorphs, no chronicles

yeah...really boring...
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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2009, 11:56:04 PM »
I only hate the ones who's plots have been used before , like #39. That's the only one I don't really like. the others, except #24 and, to a lesser extent, #42 (although the reasons are a bit more personal. I hate the helmacrons),  I like.

so the only books I would take out are #39, and #24. #42...well I don't like the helmacrons but the idea of going inside marco was pretty good.

though if I had to shorten to about 30 books...
#1 (the first book, duh)
#4 (they meet ax)
#5 (they meet visser one)
#7 (they meet the ellimist)
#8 (seerow's kindness)
#10 (the chee)
#13 (tobias gets his morphing powers back)
#19 (the ypm)
#20 (they get the blue box)
#21 (and of course if you have 20, you need 21 and 22)
#22
#23 (elfangor is tobias's father)
#26 (they meet crayak)
#45 (beginning of the final arc, and marco's dad finds out, and get marco's mom back)
#49 (the yeerks find out they're humans)
#50 (the auxiliaries)
#51 (the governor)
#52 (destroy the yeerk pool)
#53 (second to last book)
#54 (last book)
no megamorphs, no chronicles

yeah...really boring...

That's pretty good, but I would include the first three chronicle books. I may take out Ellemist Chronicles. It wasn't that good, though it could have been better. Then because it's shortened to 30, there's room for a few more. I think 3 should be in, because it goes over Tobias coming to terms with his new life.
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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2009, 01:01:27 AM »
like I said, I would place all except #39 and #24, but to limit to 30, only those are enough.

there doesn't have to be a whole book about tobias coming in terms with his whole life. you could, and I won't mind, but for about 30 books, you could just stick it in the beginning of #13...

the ac, hbc, and visser, don't seem to play very important roles. we have 23 for revealing tobias is elfangor's son, hork-bajir chronicles is needed even less. what's it actually give to the overall plot? visser, same thing with hbc...

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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2009, 02:47:29 AM »
Oh oh, but those chronicles were really good entertainers. And they helped make things more convincing. Excluding Ellimist's though, IMO, it's quite boring. Or perhaps it's because I didn't feel any connection with it.

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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2009, 03:16:54 AM »
if we're adding ones that are entertaining, then the only one you can take out is #39, cuz the plot's been used already (#24, even if it wasn't interesting to me, was interesting to some people)

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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2009, 05:59:38 AM »
But at least Visser Chronicles explained the origin of the Earth invasion. HBC about the attack on the HB planet, also a thing or two about Seerow's Kindness. Those are important, yes? The most useless chronicles for me is Andalite's, however it was my favorite just because it's... very good, for the lack of phrase.

And yea, I hate Helmacrons. Though #24 gave me some real laugh.

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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2009, 06:19:47 AM »
important, no. those are just details. you could write books about them, but there's no need to (other than making the series more interesting).

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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2009, 07:44:37 AM »
Still, those chronicles are the basics' details, without them things would be clouded much. If those were just left to the readers' imaginations... Why, I simply appreciate what's official.

And it could be pretty dull to just jump from new revelation to new revelation considering each book's length. Some well written bridges could be real nice.

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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2009, 08:05:58 AM »
I did say limiting to 30 books would be boring...

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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2009, 09:53:18 AM »
Well, I appreciated hearing the stories behind the Hork-Bajir homeworld takeover and the start of the invasion of Earth. Plus I liked reading about Elfangor, and finding out how V3 lucked out and got an Andalite host.

I think such a large part of Tobias' life deserves a book, since it's the main turning point. But these are just my opinions.

Your list doesn't add up to 30, so there's room to ad a few more. Those are some that I would add.


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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2009, 10:12:04 AM »
maybe not, but if I try to add one more based on something, a lot of others have to be added too...like if I added #3 because of that, I'd have to add #18, #38, #48, #37, #11, #35...you get the picture, right?

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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2009, 10:24:54 AM »
No, I don't see any point in adding 11 and 35, for starters, just because I added 3. 3 is important for Tobias' character development, but 11 never happened and 35 had no effect on later books. Except maybe 41, but 41 never happened either.

Edit: Wait, I thought 35 was The Extreme. That's 30. 35 is the one where Marco starts losing control of his morphing powers, right? I probably still wouldn't add it, because we're already well aware that his mother's plight stresses him out.
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Re: Reduce the book number
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2009, 10:31:50 AM »
the extreme is #25...