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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2008, 10:35:46 AM »
they just have one sex! physically and literally....
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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2008, 10:37:18 AM »
Normally I'd agree that they could be hermaphrodites like snails are, but the fact that they require a third parent Yeerk makes me think that Yeerk reproduction and genders aren't like anything found on Earth.
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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2008, 06:26:15 PM »
To be honest I have to disagree. I think that gender for yeerks is a personality triat they are born with resulting from evolution maybe to help understand hosts and live with advanced inteligence. Biologicaly they are I think somewhere along the lines of hermaphrodites.
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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2008, 07:22:18 PM »
They might be physically similar to hermaphrodites, but since three parents are required it is clearly different.
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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2008, 07:44:54 PM »
If you scroll down to the bottom of this page you'll find K.A.'s official canon final awesome answer...of doom. 

http://hirac-delest.issamshahid.com/database/articles/according/2000/accord_jan00.htm

Neither male nor female, they're their own special...Yeerky... gender.  Thing.  They probably only act male or female depending on their host, and how intuned they are to their host's behavior or society.  Some, like Taylor's Yeerk, seemed to really not mind acting their host's gender.


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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2008, 07:47:30 PM »
ah, okay.

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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2008, 10:18:37 PM »
Canon, makes sense but for the record I was close. Alright I was off but I just thought the way they refered to their relationships as 'Brother' and 'sister' in book nineteen made me think that their was more to it and the controller relationship in Visser is also evidence.
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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2008, 05:21:19 AM »
I can't believe it was on issam's website...did issam know about this?

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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2009, 10:30:28 PM »
former visser one was a female

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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2009, 10:37:28 PM »
former visser one was a female

you sure about that?
as soon as they leave the host i think they lose their gender (and are thus referred to as 'it').

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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2009, 01:29:54 PM »
they just have one sex! physically and literally....
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OK.  Gather 'round for a biology lesson.  Sex is weird, even on familiar old Mater Terra.  Here's how some different forms of life shuffle genes among terran species:

Plants alternate generations: half the generations have twice as many chromosomes as the other half.  The plants fewer chromosomes are called gametophytes; the ones with more, sporophytes.  Both generations are multicellular.  One of the generations is dependent on the other for development (and is physically much smaller).  In most plants, the sporophyte is the larger, longer-lived, dominant generation.  However, the opposite is true of mosses and ferns, where the gametophyte hosts the sporophyte.  Gametophytes always have an inherent sex (mating type), but sporophytes often do not: they'll produce both sexes of gametophytes, or they'll change from producing one to the other with age.  And many plants ignore sex most of the time and just clone themselves all over the place: clover, strawberries, grass (the kind that grows in steppes and meadows, silly), etc.

Fungi are similar to plants, except that the haploid generation is dominant, "sex" is called "mating type," many haploid fungi can change mating type (gametophytes can't do this), and sexual reproduction usually only occurs in response to environmental stress. (why do I get the feeling that will be taken out of context?)

Protists are just strange.  Unicellular.  Multicellular.  Sexual.  Asexual.  They confuse the professional biologist, so, I'm going to move right along.

Animals alternate between multicellular diploid generations, and unicellular haploid generations.  Except for social insects (ants, bees, etc), which have multicellular haploid generations.  The haploid cells (gametes) are always sexed (like plant gametophytes--except unicellular).  The diploid animals, though, have a wide variety of sex determination systems.

Genetic determination
XY: (Mammals, except platypus): female, unless the male-marking Y chromosome is present.
ZW: (Birds, some insects, some fish): male, unless the female-marking W chromosome is present.
X0: (grasshoppers, crickets, ****roaches): Females have two X chromosomes; males, one. 
Haplodiploid: (bees, ants, termites, bark beetles): A variant of X0 in which males are haploid (having one of each chromosome, not just X) and females are diploid.

Environmental determination
Incubation temperature: (alligators, turtles): sex is somewhat random, but influenced by temperature.  Yes, that's right.  Weird hunh?
Wolbachia: (some insects): sex is determined by a parasitic bacterium.  And I thought the last one was strange!
Social variables: (many fish): sex changes to match behavior.

And so, with all this strangeness, on our own planet, aren't you glad KA took the easy way out?


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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2009, 10:46:37 AM »
You want a real problem. For me Visser 1 is a she sometimes and a he somethimes

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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2009, 04:40:16 AM »
Visser One is a politician. Politicians aren't "he" or "she", they're politicians ;) Don't expect a politician being too feminine!
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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2009, 02:09:53 PM »
Visser One is a politician. Politicians aren't "he" or "she", they're politicians ;) Don't expect a politician being too feminine!

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Re: yeerk 'genders'
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2009, 02:15:46 PM »
i always thought that yeerks adopted their first's host gender as their "identity"

or the one they spent the most time it.

it's really up to the yeerk in question.   
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