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Offline Chad32

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Why not get the box right at the start?
« on: December 05, 2008, 11:14:10 PM »
Does anyone know why KA didn't just let them have the box right at the start? Why she limited the team to six, instead of having auxilaries much earlier? Do you think things would have been better that way? There may have been more cases like David, but David was a special case. He was brought into the group to keep him from being infested. Under normal circumstances, they wouldn't have chosen him.

Elfangor could have handed the box over to Jake or Tobias easily.


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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2008, 01:05:24 AM »
well, elfangor really didn't know the kids. and yeah, it would have been easier to do, but harder to write.
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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2008, 02:45:45 AM »
Maybe because if he did, then Crayak gets to even the field. Their identities might have been found out quicker if it were a bigger group. Also, giving them the ability to morph was breaking a major rule already. If he gave them the box it would  be breaking the rules even further.

Besides they were kids. Six random strangers appearing in the same place at the same time. Getting them to work together was a trial itself. I think if he did give them the box, the yeerks might've won.

In the beginning the kids were there to uphold the front, none of them foresaw it as something they'll be doing for more than a few months, a year at best cause the andalites were supposed to come. Also the auxiliaries didn't really work out, most of them died used as cannon fodder.

Sure they may have wanted to help but things happen, people have their own opinions and their own desires. David was a special case but it wasn't as if they could see into his heart. They had no special device that allowed to see if the person was a controller or even if the person was good.

The more people, the more trouble and the greater chance of being caught and infested.

I think even with the box, they would've just hid it away.

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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2008, 05:35:26 AM »
i just think elfangor didn't give it to them because it may have worsened the animorph's chances placing such advanced tech into a species' kids.
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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2008, 12:29:39 PM »
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In the beginning the kids were there to uphold the front, none of them foresaw it as something they'll be doing for more than a few months, a year at best cause the andalites were supposed to come. Also the auxiliaries didn't really work out, most of them died used as cannon fodder.

Sure they may have wanted to help but things happen, people have their own opinions and their own desires. David was a special case but it wasn't as if they could see into his heart. They had no special device that allowed to see if the person was a controller or even if the person was good.

I think the first part may be a good reason. They weren't planning on winning, just holding the Yeerks off. The auxilaries could have worked better, but at the time KA was using ghostwriters and getting tired of the series altogether.

I think it would have become obvious that David was bad, if they had more time to watch him and observe him. I wouldn't have been too difficult.


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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2008, 03:43:00 PM »
well it would have made sense for elfangor to give them the box, rather than leave it around the ship where the yeerks might find it, maybe tell them to destroy it or something.

but that wouldnt have allowed for the david storyline, he only got mixed up in the whole fandango because he found the box

also, I don't think they would have made any auxiliaries that early in the series. They wouldnt want to condemn others to the horrible war they were stuck in, later in the series, for sure, but early on they were still compassionate little kids

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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2008, 06:36:24 PM »
wait, i dun remember, what happened to elfangor's cube?
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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2008, 06:54:08 PM »
Not sure what happened in book 1. whether Jake took it back into the ship, or if Elfangor was actually holding it while Visser Three taunted him. supposedly when Elfangor's ship was destroyed, the explosion launched it into a wall. David found it in a hole, and you should know what happens after that.

It's a big plot hole, actually. We know homeless people live in the construction site, so why did it take David walking through for someone to find it? If Elfangor was indeed holding it while Visser Three mocked him, why didn't anyone find it then? No one knows.


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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2008, 12:37:09 PM »
well, the fact that yeerks came right down on them after they got the box kinda make one want to run.

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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2008, 01:21:24 PM »
Maybe elfangor wanted the yeerks to destroy the box so they couldn't get it. What Visser three could do with his morphing power was unreal this further convinced the Andalites and Elfangor that the Yeerks could not obtain the morphing power. However due to an unexpected twist it got blasted into a hole in the wall.
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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2008, 05:41:51 PM »
i'm still wondering why he was carrying the box with him in the first place.. ::)

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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2008, 06:30:03 AM »
i'm still wondering why he was carrying the box with him in the first place.. ::)
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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2008, 10:17:13 AM »
Or Crayak.
It may have had something to do with the rules, you know?
Like, originally Crayak was allowed to have as many Yeerks as he wanted, but only one of them could morph at the time. Then the Elimist could choose someone to deliver the blue box to the human race, but again, that was limited.

Or maybe Elfangor dropped the box when Visser Three picked him up or something.

Also, the Animorphs were scared beyond all reason, so none of them probably even gave the blue box a second thought for a while. Let alone letting in anyone else.
By the time they got the box, they had become such a close-knit group that letting anyone else in seemed almost impractical because they were doing well enough on their own. They could anticipate each other's reactions and base their own actions off of these anticipations. New people would have just messed with the flow.

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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2008, 10:40:46 AM »
well, who knows, maybe the morph cube was pretty indestructible...we really don't know the make up of the cube.
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Re: Why not get the box right at the start?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2008, 11:01:30 AM »
I know they were terrified, but that wasn't until the Yeerks dropped in. I was talking about Elfangor handing them the box before the Yeerks got there. Like giving them the power, then saying <Take it.>, or something like that.


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