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Visser Two
« on: October 04, 2008, 08:33:30 PM »
What do you think of Visser Two? I would think he'd be a bit angry that Visser Three got the promotion to Visser One instead of him. However, he's all too happy to go through with the new Visser One's plan. This leads me to believe he's blindly loyal to the Council.

It seems he isn't willing to see the WW3 plan through if it means the destruction of the main ground base, though. So maybe he isn't as ruthless as Visser Three.

I believe Ax thinks he's crazy. Do you think he's crazy, or just a blindly loyal soldier doing his duty?

As for me, I'd call him a sheep.


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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2008, 08:41:29 PM »
When I read it, I thought visser two was loyal to visser three (or visser one by then) and gladly followed his plan. Although he wasn't blind, and knew that the plan would fail (in a way I still do not totally understand) if the yeerk pool was destroyed. In short, a smart soldier that's very loyal to visser three and the yeerk empire.

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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2008, 09:28:02 PM »
Do you think he's crazy, or just a blindly loyal soldier doing his duty?

Yes, he's blindly patriotic.  And that makes him a fool.


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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2008, 11:02:24 PM »
Visser Two, he crazy!

I actually think he's one of the more interesting villains (more interesting than Three at least).  He doesn't strike me as loyal so much as just totally fixated on his own goal.

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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2008, 04:38:59 AM »
My god my memory sucks.

There was a Visser Two? Since when? :P
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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2008, 05:24:25 AM »
in book 46...he was a very key player in that book.

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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2008, 06:18:04 AM »
Book 46, Book 46...

Well I have it, so I'm gonna re-read it sometime soon. Perhaps tomorrow as I'm getting tired now, lol.
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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2008, 09:28:46 AM »
My god my memory sucks.

There was a Visser Two? Since when? :P

Lol, my thoughts exactly. Then again, I kinda blocked out most of the books from the later part of the series, so...I might have to look book 46 up on here later.
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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2008, 03:29:36 PM »
I'd say he believes in the empire more than his own benifits, a nationalist.
I don't think he was necessarily crazy, he wanted an open war, same as V3, and was finally gonna get it.
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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2008, 10:36:21 PM »
My god my memory sucks.

There was a Visser Two? Since when? :P

I keep getting him confused with Visser Four, myself.  Yay for bad memory. :D

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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2008, 07:35:51 AM »
Pity not much was known about Visser 2. He acquired a human host and was meant to be an orchestrating war expert. His loyalty would have been to Visser 3, but maybe also to Visser one. And he definitely wasn’t a Yeerk Peace Campaigner. But upon being confronted with the eradication of his ‘brothers and sisters’ he dropped the whole tyrant thing. What does this say about him?!
That he’s not as crazy and bloodthirsty as Visser Three or, even possibly as ruthless as  Visser One? But he was certainly a bit of both throughout his cameo on the series.

Whatever would have happened to him?
Would Ax have simply let such a dangerous foe go? At that stage of the war?!

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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2008, 06:05:55 PM »
As has been repeated he is an extremly patriotic Yeerk and I'd guess that he thought the empire was the only way the Yeerks could survive. If the chance to morph Yeerks was present he might have taken it. I say this because unlike the other ruthless commanders who would allow this destruction if it help their repute he spared his fellow Yeerks and put them over the plan.
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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2008, 01:23:48 AM »
...he is an extremly patriotic Yeerk ... thought the empire was the only way the Yeerks could survive. If the chance to morph Yeerks was present he might have taken it. ... if it help their repute he spared his fellow Yeerks and put them over the plan.
Dude, can't understand what you mean here. A patriotic Yeerk, who would stand by the Council of Thirteen, then suddenly opting for 'permanently morphing' some other random species sounds a bit contradictory.
Unless all Yeerks are hypocrites.

A tyrant, as such are the ones that fall under the Visser ranks, would certainly oppose being what they are, which is YEERKS.
The keyword is 'tyrant'. Tyrants need followers. If the Yeerks under a 'Visser's subjugation suddenly became 'something else' who would 'said-Visser' have left to give orders to???
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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2008, 03:13:33 AM »
ugh...i suddenly just realized that I really did miss the latter half of the series...
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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2008, 01:15:03 PM »
...he is an extremly patriotic Yeerk ... thought the empire was the only way the Yeerks could survive. If the chance to morph Yeerks was present he might have taken it. ... if it help their repute he spared his fellow Yeerks and put them over the plan.
Dude, can't understand what you mean here. A patriotic Yeerk, who would stand by the Council of Thirteen, then suddenly opting for 'permanently morphing' some other random species sounds a bit contradictory.
Unless all Yeerks are hypocrites.

A tyrant, as such are the ones that fall under the Visser ranks, would certainly oppose being what they are, which is YEERKS.
The keyword is 'tyrant'. Tyrants need followers. If the Yeerks under a 'Visser's subjugation suddenly became 'something else' who would 'said-Visser' have left to give orders to???

He cared more about the yeerks as a species than the empire. The empire was less of a priority but he was willing to sacrifice himself for it because he believed that it would help the Yeerks as a species
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