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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2008, 01:47:26 PM »
i always found that super wierd and one of the things that shoulda been explained. visser 3 was in as much hot water almost as visser 1 back int he Visser book, so y she got booted and he jumped up to visser 1 and visser 2 didnt makes no sense. but i dk, visser 2 seemed in his own world. he was followin orders but in his own style. that makes sense right?
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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2008, 08:25:49 PM »
here's my theory.

It's kinda like basketball or the business world or bcs rankings or whatever

 Visser Two has probably been in that position for a very long time. He's consistent. He's loyal. But he just doesn't have the extra oomph or trait that the Council is looking for to boost to visesr one. Visser One is that rank because of her discovery and beginning conquest of Earth. What has Visser three done?

 So I think Visser Two is there just because he's consistent and loyal. Also, he probably hasn't done anything wrong yet, so he's just there.

for those who are into football, Visser Two is Alabama. Good, consistent, undefeated (because both visser two and bama hadn't faced real though challenges or setbacks yet). But another powerhouse team moved forward.
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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2008, 07:04:30 PM »
Hmmm... It could well be that way.
I would really liked to have known what became of him. It seems stupid of Ax to land the ship they were on and just wave to The Visser 2 of the Yeerk Empire as he walks away?!

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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2008, 08:50:35 PM »
more proof the ending was rushed
Hmmm... It could well be that way.
I would really liked to have known what became of him. It seems stupid of Ax to land the ship they were on and just wave to The Visser 2 of the Yeerk Empire as he walks away?!

more proof the ending was rushed
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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2008, 11:17:49 AM »
what would have happened if the ending wasn't rushed?
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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2008, 12:19:37 PM »
we would have less things to discuss

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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2008, 12:31:52 PM »
we would have less things to discuss

That's a good point.


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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2008, 10:51:34 PM »
if it wasnt rushed i wouldnt have filled so dissapointed and let down at the end after 5 yrs of dedication
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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2008, 01:04:31 AM »
if it wasn't rushed?
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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2008, 10:42:44 AM »
If Ax kileld Visser two after landing the jet, it would be cold blooded murder. Not Ax's style. Besides, Visser Two's subordinates might have hunted them down if Ax killed the guy. Heck, if he's not going to kill Visser Three, what makes you think he'd hastily kill Visser Two? During the David Trilogy, I believe, Ax has Visser Three at his tail blade mid morph. He's got a good level of restraint.


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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2008, 07:49:43 PM »
If Ax kileld Visser two after landing the jet, it would be cold blooded murder. Not Ax's style. Besides, Visser Two's subordinates might have hunted them down if Ax killed the guy. Heck, if he's not going to kill Visser Three, what makes you think he'd hastily kill Visser Two? During the David Trilogy, I believe, Ax has Visser Three at his tail blade mid morph. He's got a good level of restraint.

I was thinking a little more like 'accidently pressing' a button, such as The Eject Button on the plane, to be honest. Make no mistake, writers opt for these things. Like it was done with Cassie, who 'accidently' fried that Hork-Bajir-Controller during The Unexpected.

Indeed, Ax truly has good restraint and he is no cold-blooded murderer, and I believe, he's also not a genocidal maniac, like he was almost forced to be during this stage with Visser Two.
The story goes to show that at this stage of the series, times had changed... And you have to ask yourself what you would have done...
I would not let this powerful enemy walk away unharmed so he could come back and bite me in the ass later...
And we weren't shown any subordinates to believe he had a massive crew of followers on Earth. As far as I know, Visser Two was portrayed doing a solo cameo.


And yeah, guys, we would have a lot less to discuss if the ending was more resolved. It's kinda cool imagining and coming up with all these things.

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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2008, 10:26:52 PM »
I doubt fanfic writers really need loose ends to motivate them to write stuff. Yes it gives us more stuff to discuss, but that's poor consolation. Much like it would be if/when I actually do rewrite the ending to suit my opinion better.


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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2009, 10:15:17 PM »
visster two? why did he chose human to control?

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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2009, 10:24:11 PM »
He needed to be Human on a ship to give orders to other Humans.


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Re: Visser Two
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2009, 09:28:55 PM »
It is unknown if the villain was a human-Controller for the whole run or just for the WW3-instigation mission...
I like to think that he somehow didn't survive... Whether it was him returning to the Empire and the Empire severely punished him or he chose Kandrona starvation over the consequences of a Visser's failure. Why else would we not hear about this subject at a later stage?!