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Offline Chad32

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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2011, 10:37:07 PM »
I don't think that's what Jake meant by that thought.
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2011, 12:57:35 AM »
Yeah I think you kind of twisted Jake's thoughts there... Seeing how his goal throughout the series was to free Tom and after the war ends he's completely depressed from the choices he had to make that involved Rachel and Tom both getting killed I really doubt he enjoyed anything about watching his cousin kill his brother.  :|

Actually, I can't tell if your comment was meant to be a joke or you were being sarcastic. So hard to tell with the internet -_-
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2011, 01:03:01 AM »

What did Jake say, then? Can someone get a direct quote?
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2011, 01:42:08 AM »
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I wanted to say that it was the first real joy I had felt since seeing Rachel kill Tom.

But I definitely think that it wasn't meant to imply that Jake had enjoyed seeing Rachel kill Tom.  It just meant that he hadn't felt any joy since.
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2011, 01:55:21 AM »
Quote from: Zakryn on March 12, 2011, 01:03:01 AM
What did Jake say, then? Can someone get a direct quote?

Thanks to the help of a web page which I will not be disclosing, I have a quote from book 54 (as I don't own that book). The site I copied from does not distinguish between "audio speech" and <though speech>, so I'll be guessing when it comes to those <> symbols:

I realized I was no longer standing. I was flat on the floor. I heard my own slow breathing. I should be panting. Something striking at my face again and again. The cobra. Couldn't even see him. I had failed. Tom. Alive.
<Die, human,> he said. <Just die.>
<Rachel!> Tobias cried.
<Help me, Tobias,> I pleaded.
<l can't. . . I . . .>
He didn't understand. <Help me get him. Help me get him!>
<Okay. Okay. He's . . . your left paw, toward your face. Get ready. Has to be fast.>
<I'm ready.>
<Now!>
I jerked my paw, claws extended toward my face. Tom shrieked. I couldn't see him. But I felt something squirming. Like a worm on a fishhook. The snake was impaled on my claws.
<No!> Tom cried in outrage. I brought my paw to my mouth.
<Sorry,> I said vaguely.
<Jake, stop her!> the Yeerk screamed with Tom's mouth.
I bit down on the snake.


Which makes me wonder, why was it "screamed with Tom's mouth" if Tom and his Yeerk are a snake at the moment? And does this mean that Tom died in a snake's body, with his Yeerk off somewhere in Z-space? That's worse than dying as a human with a Yeerk still in your head!
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2011, 02:23:20 AM »

Ahhhhhhh. Ok. Now I understand. Boy do I feel stupid. :-[ :-[ :-[
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2011, 03:22:53 AM »
Did Tom die as a snake?!? With his Yeerk in Z-Space?

I can't believe I didn't catch this when I last read book 54... what was it? Six years ago? In eighth grade?
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2011, 03:28:29 AM »
I never even realized the different things that didnt add up like that. I wonder...
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2011, 01:35:07 PM »
What I find really interesting is that we never learn the name of "the Yeerk in Tom's head."  If we knew that, it would be easier to separate the two characters.  But we don't and that encourages us to think of them as one.
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2011, 07:08:51 PM »
Quote from: Zakryn on March 11, 2011, 10:29:12 PM
Yeerk, definitely, but I'm sure Tom was very scared when it came, as is especially shown in the Animorphs universe that there is no afterlife.

The more pressing to me is Jake wanted to tell the others (but stopped himself, rightfully) that being a dolphin was the most fun he had since he saw Rachel kill Tom. That line was just SICK and made me recoil. And THIS is the guy the world WORSHIPS. :o

I don't think Jake meant that he enjoyed watching Rachel kill tom, he simply hadn't had fun since then, his mind had been in a dark, depressed place.
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2011, 12:22:54 AM »
Does it bother no one else that Tom died as a snake? Am I alone in that regard?  :huh:
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2011, 11:59:31 AM »
As a snake, as a human, it matters little in the end. Death is death and the dead do not care in which body they do their dying. He was still himself. As I'm sure everyone has told you since you were a toddler, it's whats on the inside that counts.
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2011, 01:33:00 PM »
Quote from: Dogman15 on March 18, 2011, 12:22:54 AM
Does it bother no one else that Tom died as a snake? Am I alone in that regard?  :huh:

I guess it did bother me a bit (especially when compared to Rachel, who did get to die a human being), but not nearly as much as the fact that he died with a Yeerk still in his head.  I mean, how long had it been since he'd had a taste of freedom?  Real freedom, not in some cage in the Yeerk pool?
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2011, 01:48:33 PM »
I guess it bothers me a little.
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Re: "JAKE, STOP HER!" (book 54 spoilers)
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2011, 07:34:19 PM »
     The Auxiliaries didn't die in their own bodies either.
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