The animorphs' most unethical choices.

[Chad32]

Talking about Erek's most unethical moments isn't completely off topic, since he's one of the most developed side characters.

[Aquilai]

Yeah I know and I do really like how topics twist and turn ^^

I was just choosing the decision that wasn't chosen given the parameters of the topic! Imo, Erek's morals whilst based on a sentient specie doesn't necessarily indicate that he should have the same ethics. Debatable but the ethics of alien cultures should have some more variability.

[Blu]

Considering that for every Yeerk they killed they killed an innocent, every injury they inflicted was immoral, though unfortunately they had little choice on the matter.

They probably killed a large number of Hork-Bajir and humans. All of them (apart from maybe the occasional human) were innocent.

Still, things had to get worse before they got better.

[NateSean]

Talking about Erek's most unethical moments isn't completely off topic, since he's one of the most developed side characters.

No, but we're moving from Erek's ethics to the technical specifications of an alien built android species and comparing it to human development. I'll gladly start another topic about how oranges are similar to apples in the General board, I just didn't want to keep arguing about it in here.

[Darth Zakryn]

Ok, we all know the Animorphs and a few other characters all crossed these at some point in the series. My question to all of you, my fellow RAFians, is WHEN do you think the characters crossed them? I'll explain mine down below. But first I think I should warn you that what some might consider a Moral Event Horizon, I don't. For example: Alloran killing all the Hork-Bajir could be seen as a justified act, since both A) It was killing Yeerks, and B) Better dead than a Controller anyway, at least to most. And Jake flushing 17,000 Yeerks I didn't view as a MEH (well, ok I did, but as a justified one) because we've lost PLENTY of innocent people, hell just to Visser Three's tail blade alone, so why shouldn't THEY suffer innocent people too? Fair play equals pay back. I lose an eye, I take out the eye of the person who did that. Yeah, I know I have warped views of the world, but at least I can admit it. But enough about me! Here's my MEH moments.

Jake: While flushing the Yeerks into space is, like I said, justified in my mind, it DOES still count as a Moral Event Horizon.

Rachel: I can't remember if Rachel ever crossed it. I guess her LOVING fighting and killing and hurting IS her MEH.

Tobias: Some might consider him killing all the Mercora as a MEH, but for me, that's not as bad as when he ripped out that Controller's eye in #9. The Secret. Discussed in another topic.

Cassie: Where to begin! Cassie, interestingly, has a lot of them, despite being the series' most "moral" person. But I'd have to say erasing John B. is the biggest she's committed. She doesn't know if there's an afterlife or spirits. Does that destroy the spirit too? We'll never know.

Marco: Hmmm... Marco, despite being the most ruthless, has very few, but I'd have to say when he was about to kill Karen and his mother, which didn't succeed in any case, so one could argue it was an Aborted Moral Event Horizon.

Ax: Ah, Ax! Probably when he threatened to nuke that town. Or when he CONSIDERED letting the fleet toast Earth. Open for debate.

Anyone have any others?

[Chad32]

I think I already made a thread about this topic recently. Granted it is at the bottom of page 3, but here's the link.

http://animorphsforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=7359.0

[Darth Zakryn]

Really? Ok, could you ask a staff member to delete it?

[Chad32]

One of them is bound to notice and lock/delete this.

[Darth Zakryn]

Ok then.

[Phoenix004]

Topics merged.

[Darth Zakryn]

Ah ok thanks. And to amend my earlier statement: I think Rachel's was when she wanted to go after Aftran with such cold-bloodedness.

[Tim Bruening]

author=Nar Klawip link=topic=7359.msg560546#msg560546 date=1296327343]
Dang, you beat me to it Chad

Jake: flushed 17,372 Yeerks without warning

Marco: set up his mom to die, then tried to kill her

Cassie: trapping David, erasing John Berryman from existence, taking a host as a Yeerk, making Ax into a controller

Letting Tom take the morphing cube (end of book 50).

Cassie had put Aftran into ax so that Aftran could find the about to expolde Tria gland.

Rachel: threatening David and his family

Ax: threatened to drop a nuke on the yeerk pool, which would destroy the entire town

Tobias: hmm, cant really think of anything right now

Megamorphs 2:Condemning the Mercora to death by comet 65 million years ago.

MM4: Becoming a Controller.

Quote from: Chad32 on January 30, 2011, 04:33:42 PM

    Yeah, I'm not sure why they threw it away either. Not like the Chee are capable of changing their minds or anything. On the other hand, they've probably sat in the back and watched thousands of wars by the time the series started. Good thing the Yeerks never found it again, as well.

    It's also odd that Erek never said anything about the Anis blowing up the pool.

Can't the Chee recover the Permalite crystal?  After all, they have no difficulties traveling underwater!  Erek once dashed from his house to 3 miles underwater in 10 minutes!