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Re: This fanfic is hilarious
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2009, 07:28:58 PM »
I admit that the end of the series originally annoyed me, but I've grown since then. I now think that it would have been almost impossible to write a better ending for the last book, even though it was a bit sad to see most of our beloved characters resigned to certain doom.

Yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion Aloth, and you are entitled to disagree with it. However, you do not have the right to belittle a person's beliefs. That was out of line. -1
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Re: This fanfic is hilarious
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2009, 02:43:53 AM »
I never belittled anyone.  Just said that, factually, they're wrong.  But they're allowed to be wrong.

That's not belittling.  That's called tolerance.  You disapprove of something because an absolutely air-tight argument can be made against it, but you're willing to live and let live.  Tolerance.  Dictionary.com will have the definition.

Please don't make false accusations, friend.  It's not your place without substantive & reasonable moral high-ground.
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Re: This fanfic is hilarious
« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2009, 09:47:58 AM »
Saying you don't agree with their beliefs but are willing to accept that they have a different opinion is tolerance; saying you're right and they're wrong isn't.

Anyway, let's just forget about that and try to get back on topic.
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Re: This fanfic is hilarious
« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2009, 10:50:09 AM »
Actually, no.  You can profess someone's argument as baseless and still be absolutely tolerant of their standpoint.
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Re: This fanfic is hilarious
« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2009, 12:38:30 PM »
You're not being tolerant. Calling someone's viewpoint baseless is not tolerance. You have a viewpoint. Someone else has a viewpoint. You're basically calling the other person's viewpoint stupid. That's INtolerance.

Just because you try to claim that the opinion is baseless doesn't make it so. That's INSULTING, and I personally have no idea why I would try to debate with you, because you dismiss everything that isn't your opinion.

You might think that you're being tolerant just by saying you are.  But you're not. You're not accepting my viewpoint as a valid opinion and therefore you're being intolerant.

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Re: This fanfic is hilarious
« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2009, 12:58:58 PM »
You're not being tolerant. Calling someone's viewpoint baseless is not tolerance.

Actually, technically, it is.  I'm pointing out the evidential impracticality of what you're saying, while still tolerating that you have a right to the opinion.


You have a viewpoint. Someone else has a viewpoint. You're basically calling the other person's viewpoint stupid. That's INtolerance.

Not at all.  I called you out on it for being wrong, while acknowledging that arguing about it is stupid.  You're certainly not alone in your summation of the story's final arc.  I suppose there's credibility in numbers.  If you've been reading my posts, you'd see I'm simply offering the insight that consensus isn't a fact-based exercise.  The evidence supports the finale fitting absolutely to a tee with the rest of the series, but if you want to believe otherwise, that's within your rights.  It'd just be nice to see some substantial worthwhile basis for why you and your (quite numerous) similarly-minded detractors think the way you do.

Like it or not, my own volatile personality aside, I do make a rational by-the-numbers point.  All I'm saying is, as of right now, I'm a point ahead in terms of substantiating myself.

Just because you try to claim that the opinion is baseless doesn't make it so. That's INSULTING, and I personally have no idea why I would try to debate with you, because you dismiss everything that isn't your opinion.

See, no.  I don't dismiss.  I don't belittle.  I provide the reasons it's not a practical, sane view to have.  Everything else is personal taste, and that's fine, if you don't like something you don't like it.  But don't ride my ass for telling you your view doesn't really hold any rational weight, because going by the facts we have, the books, it doesn't.

You might think that you're being tolerant just by saying you are.  But you're not. You're not accepting my viewpoint as a valid opinion and therefore you're being intolerant.

Yeah, see, the English dictionary has a certain differing definition of "tolerance" from your esteemed self.  Perhaps that's where the conflict lies.

As I mentioned, I never said you don't have the right to be incorrect on the matter.  You do.  I simply think it needs to be verbalized and challenged.  Forums are designed for such.

I may be arrogant.  Guilty as charged.  Maybe being right a lot of the time develops said personality quirks.
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"Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn børk! børk! børk!" - The Swedish Chef.

“He is very wise man and very strong - although perhaps not so strong as his father Barbara.  Tough guy!" - Borat, on President Bush.

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Re: This fanfic is hilarious
« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2009, 01:33:12 PM »
The only thing right about that last post is that you're arrogant.

You're also impossible to debate with, because you're so arrogant that nothing I say could get through. You have proven absolutely nothing. You have given NO facts. All you've done is give your opinion and declare it as right. That's ALL you've done.

I could spend an hour writing out a thoroughly researched reply and cite sources, putting a lot of effort into it, or I could stare at a wall for an hour. Judging by your intolerance, staring at the wall would be more productive.

I'm going to try not to respond again, because it won't change anything. You're intolerant and can't accept anyone else's opinion, and no matter how much you try to say otherwise, you have not proven anything, nor have you given any real evidence of your OPINION.

Telling someone their opinion is wrong just because you say so is INTOLERANT. It's also rude.

ALL you're saying is that you're right, and other people are wrong. You're arrogant, and I'm not going to have this discussion anymore, because I have better things to do than argue with someone who is going to belittle and dismiss everything I say.

Again, I don't dislike your opinion. I dislike your way of dismissing other people's and the fact that you are being incredibly, irrevocably rude.
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Re: This fanfic is hilarious
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2009, 02:03:30 PM »
We gotta stop fighting here.

Im gonna lock this for a while so everyone can calm down.