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More strange Yeerk/morphing thoughts
« on: March 26, 2011, 04:23:39 PM »
So what happens if a Yeerk controlling a morph capable host (for example Temrash 114 in Jake) morphs an animal and forces the host to become a nothlit? (Example: Temrash forcing Jake into a morph like an ant so he can't be in the fight anymore) Does the Yeerk still die after three days? Even though they're in Z-space? How the heck does that work?

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Re: More strange Yeerk/morphing thoughts
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2011, 06:08:04 PM »
Since the Yeerk's physical body no longer exists, it wouldn't die from kandrona starvation after 3 days. A Controller who morphed falcon in #52 actually claimed they wanted to go nothlit.
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Re: More strange Yeerk/morphing thoughts
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2011, 07:32:07 PM »
Yeah, that scene always stuck in my head...always felt bad for the guy, especially after

[spoiler]Ax hears him cry out after flying away, and Rachel roaring in triumph, possibly indicating that Rachel killed him[/spoiler]


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Re: More strange Yeerk/morphing thoughts
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2011, 08:39:59 PM »
From that example in book 52, do you think the Yeerk and his host both wanted to be a nothlit? Or was that purely the Yeerk's decision? (Possibly selfish.)

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Re: More strange Yeerk/morphing thoughts
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2011, 08:44:22 PM »
Since the Yeerk's physical body no longer exists, it wouldn't die from kandrona starvation after 3 days. A Controller who morphed falcon in #52 actually claimed they wanted to go nothlit.

Actually, are you sure that was a controller?  Ax assumed it was a controller, but it could also have been just a morphed Yeerk.  That would have made more sense if the Yeerk intended to trap himself, since the Yeerk probably wouldn't have known whether he'd die after three days or not, and might not want to risk it.  And besides, it seems like it would have been really wasteful to trap a perfectly nice host body in morph with you rather than just being a Yeerk trapped as a falcon (not to mention that the Yeerk would have to listen to their host's whining for the rest of time).

Of course, we don't actually even know whether the Yeerk even intended to trap himself at all.  There's at least a chance that it was just a ploy to get Ax to let him go.  Let's not forget that Yeerks are some of the most talented actors in the universe.

Anyway, going back to the subject at hand, I agree that a morphed controller's Yeerk in Z-space would be able to live indefinitely.  As is shown in the series, morphed human bodies in Z-space don't need oxygen (unless they're disturbed by passing ships), and Tobias's human body would have been locked in Z-space long enough that it should have started needing things like food and water when he was trapped in hawk form.  If he could survive without those things, then it's conceivable that a Yeerk could survive without Kandrona.

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Re: More strange Yeerk/morphing thoughts
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2011, 07:30:29 PM »
It was a controller.  All of the yeerks that were seen morphing used controllers, and it'd be difficult, but not impossible, for the yeerks to demorph at the time limit simply because they'd have to return to a yeerk.  It'd be much more practical to use a host that could travel (or fight) then to use their own bodies, which would be useless demorphed.

I don't think the yeerk cared what his host thought.  Besides why would the host want that?  He'd be never have controll again.

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Re: More strange Yeerk/morphing thoughts
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2011, 10:31:17 PM »
What's that a quote from?

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Re: More strange Yeerk/morphing thoughts
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2015, 02:40:26 PM »
Since the Yeerk's physical body no longer exists, it wouldn't die from kandrona starvation after 3 days. A Controller who morphed falcon in #52 actually claimed they wanted to go nothlit.

Yet Temrash's morphing did not seem to delay his death by Kandrona starvation.