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Offline Chad32

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What if she was more ambiguous?
« on: September 27, 2009, 06:42:28 PM »
Everyone knows, or should know, that Animorphs is meant to teach us that war is hell, and KA wants us to think deeply about it. she wanted us to notice the subtext. But she also pushed her own beliefs, regardless of the choices and opinions fans may have developed through reading it.

But what uf she was more ambiguous about what she felt was right or wrong? Would it have been better? Would it have been better to let us decide for ourselves. instead of her telling us X is how we should feel about war and such?

It's obvious she did some things just to drive home what she was trying to tell us to agree with. That people who actually enjoy being in a war, for whatever reason, are doomed. That only by trying your hardest to remain exactly the same as you were before the war started can you actually move past it.

These things some of us may not agree with, so would it have been better if she had left it open ended for us to make our own decisions?


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Re: What if she was more ambiguous?
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 07:50:50 PM »
As a writer, I think it's impossible to convey an unbiased view on any topic, unless it is one that you actually do not have an opinion towards. That said, I think KA DID do a pretty good job of showing us the different sides of things. Yes, the overall message was 'war is hell', but she was careful to note that not everyone curls up in a ball and wants to die after they get out of a war. Marco moved on and led a fairly successful and happy life for awhile. Cassie found her own inner peace working with the Hork-Bajir. If KA's message was simply 'war is hell' and nothing else, then everyone would have died or reacted to the aftermath like Jake and Tobias did.

I think it would be harder to give the characters strong personalities if there wasn't bias there. A person is defined by their biases and opinions. If KA was trying to present an unbiased approach, I think the Ani's would come across as flat.

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Re: What if she was more ambiguous?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 07:53:30 PM »
Just because she put some of her beliefs into the story doesn't mean we are forced to agree with them. They might have influenced us, but at the end of the day we have the free will to decide what we believe in.

I also agree with Terenia that it's not possible to write a story that's completely unbiased. You tend to end up writing your feelings and opinions into the story, sometimes without even realising it.
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Re: What if she was more ambiguous?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 09:17:56 PM »
On the whole, I don't mind KA's sub-texts.  I even agree with most of them, especially her ideas about how war changes people, how you can't defeat an enemy without beginning to become them, and how no group of people (or aliens) is ever 100% evil.  They're good messages to spread, and they're probably true.

There were a few of her messages, however, that I would disagree with.

The near-complete absence of guns from the series (I mean, the number of times the Animorphs have fired a weapon can be counted on the fingers of one hand) was something that, when you stop to think about it for too long, reeks of fridge logic.  Yeah, she was trying to send a message.  Guns are bad.  But still, it wasn't done in a way that made a whole lot of sense.  Most people would have been pretty keen on stealing weapons in the Anis position.  She could have found a better way around that one.

The other message I didn't like were all the moral values that Cassie upheld.  I don't dislike Cassie as a person.  She's a lot like me, actually.  And I agreed with her morals, for the most part.  But it became so obvious, later on in the series, that she was just being used as a vehicle for K.A.'s own point of view.  I mean, come on, she was never freaking wrong.  She was just there to prove to the reader that morality is good, and life is sacred, and if you hold on tight enough to your morals you can survive anything.

Which is a message that I don't agree with in the first place.  If you hold too tight to your morals, they break.  If you try too hard not to change, you will snap and then change anyway.

But, as Terenia said, you can't ever write an unbiased story.  You have to write from your own personal experience and write what you know, or else your story will come across as fake and boring.  So, on that level, I'm glad that K.A. wrote from her heart, no matter what her thoughts about these things might be.  Animorphs would have been a very different story if she hadn't.

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Re: What if she was more ambiguous?
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2009, 12:39:08 AM »
I always thought the not-using-guns thing was just because they wouldn't have the opportunity to use guns, as they were rarely fighting as humans (or anything else that could fire a weapon).
But now that you mention it I can see how that could be sending the "guns are bad" message.

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Re: What if she was more ambiguous?
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2009, 08:44:02 AM »
Ax could use a gun, and surely had basic training in shredder usage. which is not too different from dracon beams, since the latter is based on the former.

Marco often had hands, though I'm not sure his fingers wouldn't be too thick to use a weapon. If there's a loop around the trigger, that is.


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Re: What if she was more ambiguous?
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2009, 10:26:48 AM »
Marco and Ax are both capable of firing a Dracon Beam (Ax has used a Shredder I believe and Macro fired a Dracon Beam once) but they're impractical because they can't carry weapons around with them because they'd lose them when they morphed to escape or whatever.

Guns are different because a Gorilla probably wouldn't be able to use one due to thick fingers and Ax might not be able to use one effectively. Dracon Beams fire beams of light, not piece of metal propelled by a small explosion. In other words: guns have recoil. Not only would Ax be unprepared for that, but Andalites have less upper-body strength than we do. Guns would also be less accurate than Dracon Beams, require ammunition and the knowledge of how to reload and such.

Guns are also VERY loud (attracting attention is a bad way to fight guerilla warfare) and much more likely to kill than the flat side of a tail blade.
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Re: What if she was more ambiguous?
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2009, 01:30:49 PM »
Ah, I should have been more specific.  I said "guns" when what I really meant was "beam weapons."  Yeah, I totally understand why the Animorphs never wanted to wave around primitive and loud earth guns.  That much makes sense.

What I was referring to was why they never stole more Dracon beams.  Marco and Ax were both able to wield them in battle morph, and everyone had Hork-Bajir morphs which are good in battle and can wield Dracon beams too.  And there were lots of situations in which being able to shoot something at a distance would have come in really, really handy.  Even if they couldn't always carry them when they were making their escape, they could have at least tried a little harder to steal them and keep them whenever they could.  Having a little stockpile of Dracons hidden out at Ax's scoop could've been useful just to have them there.  There's no real reason why they didn't do that, except that K.A. decreed that "guns are evil."

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Re: What if she was more ambiguous?
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2009, 08:36:26 PM »
Hmm...it seems to me it doesn't make that much difference whether you use a Dracon beam or a hawk's talons or a tiger's claws on your enemies.
Was KAA saying that the former would have been "worse"?
Though since guns are a real-world problem, I guess it could very well be.

Anyway, I do see that it may have been a bad strategy not to steal guns.

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Re: What if she was more ambiguous?
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2009, 04:46:37 AM »
I'm not saying they shouldn't have stolen the occasional Dracon Beam, but even if they had grabbed a few Dracon Beams when they had the chance, how many missions would they have been able to bring them along? Most of their missions tend to involve morphing which means they can't bring along shoes let alone weapons.
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Re: What if she was more ambiguous?
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2009, 11:51:53 AM »
Jake's reaction in MM4, when he finds out that Tom has a gun, makes it very clear what K.A.'s feelings on the subject are...

I personally disagree with numerous Applegate viewpoints and morals, (including the "guns are always evil" one) but I strongly believe that she couldn't have written without those viewpoints and morals showing themselves... and I don't think that she should have tried to...

(I also believe that it was an oversight to not try to stock-pile stolen yeerk technology... even if they didn't use them in every battle, there are other and numerous benefits to be gained... preparing for the future, Ax possibly finding technological weaknesses that could have been used to their advantage, etc...)
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Re: What if she was more ambiguous?
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2009, 02:53:48 AM »
I also disagree with KA Applegates world view (as expressed through her books) but as a fanfiction writer we can turn her themes and world view on its head.