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Offline AlothAssassin

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Re: Ellimist Chronicles Revisited
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2009, 05:41:34 PM »
Okay, so basically any aliens that came here would have to be completely confident they could crush us all without any trouble if we tried to put up a fight.

As for curiosity outweighing self-preservation...wow.  I guess I'm just intrigued you can say something like that.  Nothing on this planet outweighs self-preservation.  Nothing.  Not individually, not politically.  Never.
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Re: Ellimist Chronicles Revisited
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2009, 06:31:36 PM »
Quote from: AlothAssassin on July 01, 2009, 05:41:34 PM
Nothing on this planet outweighs self-preservation.  Nothing.  Not individually, not politically.  Never.

Wrong!  Definitive statements are always so dangerous cause I only need one exception: parent's sacrificing their lives for their children, man sacrificing his life for his nation or the soldier beside him, etc. etc. etc.
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Re: Ellimist Chronicles Revisited
« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2009, 06:42:17 PM »
Quote from: AlothAssassin on July 01, 2009, 05:41:34 PM
Okay, so basically any aliens that came here would have to be completely confident they could crush us all without any trouble if we tried to put up a fight.

As for curiosity outweighing self-preservation...wow.  I guess I'm just intrigued you can say something like that.  Nothing on this planet outweighs self-preservation.  Nothing.  Not individually, not politically.  Never.

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Re: Ellimist Chronicles Revisited
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2009, 07:00:17 PM »
Argh.  Okay, look, I'm counting loved ones here in this 'self-preservation' point.  Yes, parents save children before themselves, people occasionally risk themselves for a random person who's in a dangerous situation.  Yes.

But as a species?  Even as countries, nations?  Hell no.

Things we don't UNDERSTAND, we fear.  We try to gain knowledge of, try to control.  Subjugate, even.  If we're talking about big-league important once-in-a-lifetime stuff like aliens coming to earth?  Humans are going to be skittish about that, unsure, fearful.  With the authorities taking a more "let's learn about this thing" approach.  It's just so very obvious that if a flying saucer crashed somewhere out in the desert that the military would make attempts to contain it.  That's not science-fiction, that's policy.
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Re: Ellimist Chronicles Revisited
« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2009, 08:10:01 PM »
Quote from: AlothAssassin on July 01, 2009, 05:41:34 PM
As for curiosity outweighing self-preservation...wow.  I guess I'm just intrigued you can say something like that.  Nothing on this planet outweighs self-preservation.  Nothing.  Not individually, not politically.  Never.

Well, the "curiosity killed the cat" quote had to come from SOMEWHERE. And I'm quite certain that it wasn't from an actual cat. People are curious. We sometimes make stupid mistakes out of curiosity when all evidence, even our self-preservation instincts, tells us that we really, really shouldn't.
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Re: Ellimist Chronicles Revisited
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2009, 08:19:52 PM »
Okay, yes, I agree with that.  What I'm saying is, shooting the damn thing down in order to learn about it may be that mistake.
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Re: Ellimist Chronicles Revisited
« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2009, 01:39:11 PM »
I know a lot of military people here.  On the whole...yeah, they'd shoot it down and ask questions later.  There are very few who would think...hmm...that might be construed as an act of war on a more advanced society...

Of course it's unlikely that we'd be able to shoot anything down.
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Re: Ellimist Chronicles Revisited
« Reply #52 on: July 06, 2009, 12:53:02 AM »
Exactly.  But saying the military, U.S. or otherwise, wouldn't make an attempt to secure an unknown entity by crippling it and taking it to one of its installations is pretty naive.  Unknown aircraft over sovereign airspace are always intercepted and investigated.
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