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Title: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: Azguard on September 02, 2008, 01:50:59 PM
 The one thing I did like about #54 was the introduction of two new totally different and mysterious elements that would be good stock to start off a new series. I mean, if Animorphs were to come back, the One and the Kelbrids would be excellent places to start. It would be a different direction and it would keep that feeling of "slowly learning abou the enemy overtime" element to Animorphs. The hard part would be that the Humans would probably grow fast technologically and it would turn into one of the other many science fiction series out there.

 However, I started this topic because I have a question. It's probably been discussed at one point or another. When I read #54 I always had it in my head that the One and the Kelbrids were connected somehow. So...here's my question. Are they? Or does the One just happen to be in Kelbrid space at that time? Or...do we just not know enough? But what can we speculate?
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: esplin on September 04, 2008, 01:15:25 PM
we can only speculate, but ive read some good, although unfinished, fanfiction about that debate
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: dancetoremember on September 04, 2008, 01:57:11 PM
I didn't connect the One and the Kelbrids, but that's possibly only because we know so little about the Kelbrids in the first place.  Now that I think about it, though, I'm sure the Kelbrids much have some idea that the One is running around in their area of outer space.  Just speculation, of course.
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: esplin on September 04, 2008, 02:05:42 PM
it seems like they would know about it
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: Azguard on September 04, 2008, 03:56:53 PM
 Have you noticed how the powerful alien races all have a way of "not being themselves"? What I mean is this,

Andalites - can morph into another creature

Yeerk - can go into another sentient being and control them

Ellimist - he downloaded a bunch of other species' memories

and The One - he seems to assimilate others into himself.
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: zaprowsdower on September 04, 2008, 04:25:57 PM
Meh, I was never really convinced-but then again it never really occurred to me. :P
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 04, 2008, 08:10:42 PM
*sigh*  They weren't included to set up a new series or even give the possibility of setting up a new series.

They were just there to end it with that notion of "the kids came into this series fighting, and that's the way they're going to go out."  It wasn't a cliffhanger.
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: Azguard on September 05, 2008, 12:00:16 AM
 yeah, that's true. i don't think anything was intended to keep going but more like how everything comes full circle.

 But doesn't it just make you wonder? =)
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 05, 2008, 12:23:45 AM
Not really.  Nothing there to ponder over, it's just a "kids die, Cassie cries, jabadabadingdong The End, roll credits" device.  No more Yeerks or Howlers, how do we show the kids goin' out fightin'?  More alienz!  What sounds cool?  "I am ze One!" - "you broke Kelbrid treaty raaar, eat cold dead space!"

Rabble rabble rabble.
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: Azguard on September 05, 2008, 12:57:26 AM
I wonder how much thought KA put into those things...
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 05, 2008, 01:15:28 AM
Enough for it to work.
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: Azguard on September 05, 2008, 01:18:02 AM
 i like writing...but being on a deadline and all that kinda kills my creativity...that's why I'm not good in school.
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: Kelran-Isthinar on September 05, 2008, 04:34:36 PM
The Kelbrid always made me think of Cardassians from Star Trek.

But thats just because 'Kelbrid' sounds like a portemanteu of 'Keldon' and 'Hybrid' (two of their battleship classes)
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: shift on September 06, 2008, 10:05:25 AM
*sigh*  They weren't included to set up a new series or even give the possibility of setting up a new series.

They were just there to end it with that notion of "the kids came into this series fighting, and that's the way they're going to go out."  It wasn't a cliffhanger.

but they didn't come in fighting =/
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: Azguard on September 06, 2008, 10:54:47 AM
 Hey shift! are you new?
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: shift on September 06, 2008, 02:23:18 PM
Hey shift! are you new?

ye i am, found this place when i decided to reread the animorphs.

Edit: Now I think about it it was actually a good ending though, they came in running away and went out calmly ramming the bladeship. Real contrast between the beginning and the end.
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: Azguard on September 06, 2008, 03:18:43 PM
 you should introduce yourself in the introductions section!
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 07, 2008, 06:00:57 PM
but they didn't come in fighting =/

Oh no?  Like ten pages into the first book, hiding while a giant monster bites a dude to pieces, Rachel screaming her lungs out at a bunch of aliens chasing her, same aliens slicing and dicing a homeless dude...
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: Azguard on September 07, 2008, 06:50:36 PM
 well, i guess what he means is that they weren't warriors at first.  they were just kids.
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 07, 2008, 07:46:04 PM
For the first two or three scenes of the book they were regular kids.

As soon as they saw a damn spaceship, they had responsibility.  Not the skills yet, but the burden.
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: shift on September 08, 2008, 12:26:00 PM
but they didn't come in fighting =/

Oh no?  Like ten pages into the first book, hiding while a giant monster bites a dude to pieces, Rachel screaming her lungs out at a bunch of aliens chasing her, same aliens slicing and dicing a homeless dude...

meanwhile the animorphs were being sensible and running and not fighting
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 08, 2008, 05:29:57 PM
*sigh*

Please read before you post.
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: Azguard on September 08, 2008, 09:30:13 PM
well...i guess it is view point. aren't we supposed to be open minded here?
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: shift on September 09, 2008, 12:12:44 PM
*sigh*

Please read before you post.

but they didn't get into any fights until near the end of the 1st book, nobody has refuted this yet...
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 09, 2008, 06:06:44 PM
There was an action scene like twenty pages into book #1.  Come now, don't be silly.

You know, I seem to remember the whole running and screaming and hobo-killing and explosions and shiz.  Sure, the kids weren't morphing and battling at that stage, but that's still what you'd call a big fightin' action setpiece.  Just as they weren't morphing and biting/slashing at the ending on the Rachel.
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: shift on September 10, 2008, 03:51:50 AM
  Sure, the kids weren't morphing and battling at that stage

PRECISELY. They weren't fighting. What is it about that fact that you lot don't understand.

Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 10, 2008, 03:57:45 AM
...

The fact that "morphing" doesn't equate to "fighting", and the fact they're entirely different words with differing meanings?  Perhaps?

...

...
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: shift on September 10, 2008, 04:10:08 AM
I'm well aware what fighting is, if they'd sat there and thrown rocks or tried to go and knock them out I'd say that they were fighting. But they didn't. They realized that fighting would get them all killed right there and ran away so that they didn't have to fight at that point.

Are you guys actually trying to tell me that if someone is chasing you you are automatically fighting?
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: morfowt on September 10, 2008, 04:32:31 AM
well fighting I'm not sure, but I would say you were in a fight...and running from it.
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 10, 2008, 07:33:56 AM
Okay, perhaps "fighting" isn't clear wording.  They came into their story in an action scene, and they left in one.

*dances the 'thread over' dance*
Title: Re: The One and the Kelbrids
Post by: Azguard on September 10, 2008, 09:35:35 AM
 yeah...in that sense it makes sense. haha