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Title: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: Raskipper on August 31, 2008, 10:28:35 PM
When I say serious, I mean is there anyone out there who is willing to take, say, a decade of their life to write, produce, direct, edit, and distribute these as films?  I hear a lot of talk about Animorphs movies on here, is anyone truly serious about it?
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: Yorick Brown on August 31, 2008, 10:35:23 PM
Technically, I'd prefer to make a TV series but I guess the answer is yes.

I'm a film student and a life long fan of Animorphs. I'd love nothing more than (and am seriously planning to one day) to adapt one of my favorite childhood books into a TV show. Though I'd be happy with a movie if I was forced to.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: wotw2112 on August 31, 2008, 10:38:27 PM
Unfortunately no.  My only relevant talent would be writing.  (Can't act can't do anything otherwise realted to film)

Would consider helping if someone else got it off the ground (writing bits (dialogue), editing, and of course being an extra!  Controller number 12 here I come! lol)  ;D

But it can't interfere with the rest of my life or my own writing too much.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: Chad32 on August 31, 2008, 10:52:40 PM
No, I'm afraid not. Filmstu is working on something, though. He seems serious about it.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: AniDragon on August 31, 2008, 10:55:57 PM
Not a movie, though I do seriously want to make an Animorphs video game, and plan on doing it once I get my feet wet in the gaming industry.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: wotw2112 on August 31, 2008, 11:03:10 PM
Filmstu is working on something, though. He seems serious about it.


Really?  When we gonna start hearing about it (at least on this site)?
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on August 31, 2008, 11:03:59 PM
You people REALLY NEED TO LEAVE THIS.

Pursue this with letters to studios and typical militant fanboy-ness, and we're not going to get a good result.  Yes, we'll get a movie made, just not one worth watching.

Pleeaase, all stop talking about movies, you're scaring the everloving hell out of me and Doctor Sanity.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: wotw2112 on August 31, 2008, 11:09:52 PM
Nothin wrong w/ a little discussion (or a lot)
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: Duff on August 31, 2008, 11:15:22 PM
Dude what is your deal? We can talk about it all we want, and we can make as many moves to actually create the movie as we want. You are like the only one who thinks it cant be done and you are completely wrong.

I'm not in the movie business so I can't honestly say I plan to make the movie, but if I had any power to do so, or if I had alot of money, I fully would.

Yea filmstu had some good ideas for a tv series, forget where he posted it
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on August 31, 2008, 11:30:55 PM
I'm not in the movie business

I think that's exactly my point right there.

I know I'm being a downer with all of this, but that's because I know how the industry works and how easily exploitable fanbases like yourselves can be for a quick buck.  Make no mistake, you won't get a movie series without cutting corners and making concessions and compromises for soccer moms.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: AniDragon on August 31, 2008, 11:41:37 PM
That's why I'm going for a video game. Yes, it's similarly cut-throat, but as I said, I want to get my feet wet in the industry before I really get started.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: Duff on September 01, 2008, 01:00:19 AM
I'm not in the movie business

I think that's exactly my point right there.

I know I'm being a downer with all of this, but that's because I know how the industry works and how easily exploitable fanbases like yourselves can be for a quick buck.  Make no mistake, you won't get a movie series without cutting corners and making concessions and compromises for soccer moms.

so...are you in the movie business?

i wasnt saying i dont know how the business works, i was saying i dont have the connections or power i would need to actually make a 300 million dollar movie
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 01, 2008, 04:03:06 AM
And I'm saying that no 300 million dollar Animorphs movie will ever be made that is even vaguely faithful to the themes of the books.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: Duff on September 01, 2008, 09:13:36 AM
so now your sayng that a movie might be made, but that it just wont be faithful? confusing
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: Touquie on September 01, 2008, 09:17:03 AM
I don't think that it's really difficult to be faithful.  The stories from the book are easy enough to transfer to film.  Of course it wouldn't be exact, but it could work.  I don't think they would have to change too much.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 01, 2008, 09:42:42 AM
so now your sayng that a movie might be made, but that it just wont be faithful? confusing

I never said a movie won't be made.  I said a movie won't be made right.  That's not opinion, that's cold hard reality.  These books cannot be transformed into a visual medium without slashing entire ideas and concepts that were integral to the books.

But will they make a run-of-the-mill summer movie hack-job adaptation?  Maybe.  Like K.A. said, probably a 1 in 20 chance of that happening.  You might get something of Golden Compass or Narnia quality, aimed at the kiddies, cashing in on "talking animals and aliens!", but anything of a more highbrow nature is out of the question.

Personally, I'd rather they not shy away from the ideas that were the only reason these books stood out among the other Scholastic properties.  The series works better in serial book format anyway, and you know it.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: Touquie on September 01, 2008, 09:47:15 AM
I think they did a really good job with Narnia.  I haven't seen Prince Caspian, but the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe was good.  They were very faithful with the books and the battle scenes were awesome.

Plus, Animorphs is intended for children.  It's a childrens series.  So is Narnia and Harry Potter.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 01, 2008, 10:13:00 AM
I think they did a really good job with Narnia.  I haven't seen Prince Caspian, but the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe was good.  They were very faithful with the books and the battle scenes were awesome.

Plus, Animorphs is intended for children.  It's a childrens series.  So is Narnia and Harry Potter.


You're right, it's intended for children, I'm not denying that.  However, there are fundamental differences here and I don't think that can be denied.  Just because Animorphs should by nature disturb children, that doesn't mean it's unsuitable for them.

Narnia and Harry Potter never really pushed the envelope of what's acceptable.  Yes, both discuss morality and good V.S. evil etc.  But did you ever see either of those two older Narnia kids stab a guy in the throat with one of their swords and watch him bleed, having to deal with the aftermath of it when they got home and went to sleep?

Of course not, that would be completely inappropriate for this kind of movie.  But in Animorphs?  That kind of thing happened in virtually every single book, whether it be Rachel or Jake ripping Hork-Bajir up, or Marco TEARING A BIG WORM apart and spilling its guts onto the floor, the book even going as far as to describe the reeking smell.

You can use the "it's intended for children!" argument all you want, but name me one scene in either the Harry Potter or Narnia series that included ANYTHING even half that vile.

That's exactly what I'm getting at here: not only is the computer technology present in films like Narnia nowhere near sophisticated enough yet to make living breathing animals look believable and realistic, but an Animorphs movie should have so much more in common with a war movie than with Narnia anyway!

Of course Animorphs was a children's series.  It was just a children's series that stood out from the pack, one that had the guts to tackle issues a little over the heads of the audience.  It was educational in a sense, moreso in the realities of conflict than in the expected "good v.s. bad" manner.  You can't compare it to children's series as a whole, because things happened in those books that were SUPPOSED to scare and shock the hell out of them.  It might be intended for young readers, but you also need to realize it was also intended to make them think, and make them uncomfortable.

Those elements will never in a million years make it into any mainstream movie production, and yes, I can guarantee that.  This is the point that is no longer opinion, and becomes practical.

You want an Animorphs movie?  Better be ready to make some major plot compromises and throw away a good chunk of character development.  People have neither the patience nor the stomach to see this on a screen, and any studio executive with any sense, or director with any conscience, is going to think the same.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: AniDragon on September 01, 2008, 10:18:30 AM
You want an Animorphs movie?  Better be ready to make some major plot compromises and throw away a good chunk of character development.  People have neither the patience nor the stomach to see this on a screen, and any studio executive with any sense, or director with any conscience, is going to think the same.

You could always get M. Night Shyamalyn(sp?). I doubt he'd be opposed to that.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 01, 2008, 10:28:36 AM
Except, you know, the fact that he's only ever made two good movies, and he has no experience at all with action or comedy.

Oh, and he'd still deliver a film with an R rating, which no major studio (or Scholastic, for that matter) would get behind. 

Seriously, I know I sound like a snappy a-hole here.  I'm sorry for the attitude.  It's just...there hasn't been a single good suggestion yet, aside from the no-name actors.  If there's a way to clear the budget, effects, rating, and plot structure hurdles, then great.  But absolutely everything said so far has been a misfire, and a clear pathway to a sh*tty run-of-the-mill summer movie.

If you want to talk directors, move more in the direction of Zemeckis or Scott or even Eastwood.  Or Cuaron or Del Toro for that matter, if a more artistic route is to be taken. 
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: Chad32 on September 01, 2008, 10:55:11 AM
Filmstu is working on something, though. He seems serious about it.


Really?  When we gonna start hearing about it (at least on this site)?
He made a thread once, saying he'd like to work on a script and such. I've been reading over it and helping him through email. However, I won't say more than that.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: wotw2112 on September 01, 2008, 11:33:18 AM
Filmstu is working on something, though. He seems serious about it.


Really?  When we gonna start hearing about it (at least on this site)?
He made a thread once, saying he'd like to work on a script and such. I've been reading over it and helping him through email. However, I won't say more than that.

Cool.  Even just in theory, still cool.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: Slushie Man on September 01, 2008, 11:56:28 AM
You people REALLY NEED TO LEAVE THIS.

Pursue this with letters to studios and typical militant fanboy-ness, and we're not going to get a good result.  Yes, we'll get a movie made, just not one worth watching.

Pleeaase, all stop talking about movies, you're scaring the everloving hell out of me and Doctor Sanity.

Nobody made you click this thread and read it. If you don't like the topic, don't participate in the thread.

I also find it really funny that someone with such a low negative number as you, is going around telling everyone else on the site what to post about. As far as I can tell, there's only one person on the site lower then you, and that's Yorick, and I really have no idea why he's lower then you are.

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Oh, and he'd still deliver a film with an R rating

Um, ok? You do know he's only made ONE film with an R rating...

Not to mention he's working on a big screen adaptation right now of the kid's series Avatar: The Last Airbender. He might actually be a really good choice, but I'll hold out and wait to see how he does with Avatar first.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: Yorick Brown on September 01, 2008, 04:25:14 PM
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And I'm saying that no 300 million dollar Animorphs movie will ever be made that is even vaguely faithful to the themes of the books.

That's some crystal ball you got there...
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: wotw2112 on September 01, 2008, 05:17:00 PM
I also find it really funny that someone with such a low negative number as you, is going around telling everyone else on the site what to post about. As far as I can tell, there's only one person on the site lower then you, and that's Yorick, and I really have no idea why he's lower then you are.

Haha!  I'm catching up!  ;D

But your stupid karma number has more to do with how childish the people you disagree with are.  Xeno and Yorick are two of the smartest people I've run into on this site and the fact that they're really negative means they say what they mean regardless of who it offends.  I say bravo.  P.C. is bs anyway
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: Slushie Man on September 01, 2008, 05:24:27 PM
I've never even seen Yorick be negative. I really can't figure out how his score is so low, cause from what I can tell, he's a stand-up member that everyone gets along with and that keeps making very interesting topics that keeps discussions going for a long time. Unless I'm missing something, anyway.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: wotw2112 on September 01, 2008, 05:27:09 PM
Lol, he enjoys making fun of Morfowt and everyone gets angry...they're never gonna let that go...

I, on the other hand, made the mistake of ever disagreeing with "TheFearlessLeader" and he's been smiting me about 6 times a day ever since.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: Yorick Brown on September 01, 2008, 06:18:28 PM
They hate how I treat this one user named Morfowt though he deserves every tongue lashing he gets.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: SuperBlue on September 01, 2008, 09:47:36 PM
They hate how I treat this one user named Morfowt though he deserves every tongue lashing he gets.

Are you f[beep]ing serious!? Morf has done wrong to you, if he ever did or said anything it was probably becuz ur dumb ass provoked him(Which would be easy for you cuz your real good pissing ppl off)
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 01, 2008, 10:57:30 PM
Lolzwaffles.

Play nice, children.  If you want to aggressively debate the topic in a manner that insults the idea but not the person, cool, but now you're all just behaving like total c*ckknockers.

But it does make me giggle, you get credit for that.  Zomgiggles.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: SuperBlue on September 02, 2008, 02:11:35 PM
Lolzwaffles.

Play nice, children.  If you want to aggressively debate the topic in a manner that insults the idea but not the person, cool, but now you're all just behaving like total c*ckknockers.

But it does make me giggle, you get credit for that.  Zomgiggles.

I dont mean for this to sound mean but...who are you? I've never seen you in these forums and yet u have -32 karma so it looks like everyone else knows u LOL
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: wotw2112 on September 02, 2008, 03:25:38 PM
Play nice, children.  If you want to aggressively debate the topic in a manner that insults the idea but not the person, cool

Thank god someone else knows the difference!
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: Phoenix004 on September 02, 2008, 06:16:05 PM
 :sign18:

And although I agree with you Xenomorph in the sense that people shouldn't be insulting each other, that's no excuse for insulting them back. Yorick was recently banned partly due to his language towards other members and I'd hate to see another member go for the same reasons.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: SuperBlue on September 02, 2008, 06:33:19 PM
  Yorick was recently banned partly due to his language towards other members and I'd hate to see another member go for the same reasons.

R u serious!? He's gone!? Woooooooooow
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: Phoenix004 on September 02, 2008, 06:44:23 PM
Indeed. I just posted a thread about it in the General board if you wish to discuss it further.

As for the Animorphs Movie, I don't suppose anybody has heard anything new about it's possible release since we heard about it from KA?
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: XenomorphLV426 on September 02, 2008, 08:52:05 PM
Nope, there hasn't been any word on it since they disappeared to Italia to eat pizza and stuff.

And Blue, what the ASS is it with all of this "karma" stuff?  People keep mentioning it, and it seems really dumb.  I don't understand this.  So, people give other members a rating as to whether or not they like them?  Sounds like an absolutely retarded popularity contest run by the illiterate faction of the board who gets completely owned in arguments and can't take the heat, so lash out with trivialities.

If my "karma" sucks, it's because I didn't know what it was until pointed out.  And I still don't see the point of it.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: AniDragon on September 02, 2008, 09:02:34 PM
Eh, there was quite a debate when we first moved to this forum on whether we should keep karma or not for that very reason.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs fil
Post by: Phoenix004 on September 02, 2008, 09:59:48 PM
Karma is harmless and therefore not worth arguing over, but there is a thread for it if you do want to argue. If so, use it.
Title: Re: Is anybody out there serious (and I mean SERIOUS) about making Animorphs films?
Post by: SuperBlue on September 02, 2008, 11:22:11 PM
And Blue, what the ASS is it with all of this "karma" stuff?  People keep mentioning it, and it seems really dumb.  I don't understand this.  So, people give other members a rating as to whether or not they like them?  Sounds like an absolutely retarded popularity contest run by the illiterate faction of the board who gets completely owned in arguments and can't take the heat, so lash out with trivialities.


Honestly, I agree with u about how adding karma to RAF wasnt the best idea, but I also see that the mods need karma to sniff out the ppl tht just cnt seem to get with the program and act like they got sum sense. Sooooooo yea, I can see how positive and negative sides of karma