Richard's Animorphs Forum
Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Duff on August 31, 2008, 03:49:18 PM
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Do you think an andalites voice changes as they get older? Cause they don't really have vocal chords that get deeper or whatever it is that happens with humans. But maybe as their mind matures their mental voice projection would get mature...er. What do you think?
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I would have to say no (though this intuitively seems wrong...)...there is no physiological reason I can think of for a voice change... Unless something in their brain (organ/chemicals etc) that controls thought speak changes over time in a similar way to vocal cords.
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Maybe it wouldn't physically sound different, but as they aged and became more mature their use of language would certainly improve, causing them to "sound different" in a manner of speaking.
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Maybe it wouldn't physically sound different, but as they aged and became more mature their use of language would certainly improve, causing them to "sound different" in a manner of speaking.
That's what I would think.
However, it seems that different thought speak does sound differently. So maybe there's an organ that handles thought speech just like we have an organ in our throats that makes people sound different.
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I say yes, probably hormones during puberty affect that part of the brain that concerns thought-speak.
Of course, to truly understand how that would work, we'd have to know a LOT more than we do now about the psysiology and biology of thought-speak! :P ;)
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Good question. I would say yes, just because the Animorphs can distinguish their own thought speech "voices" between one another.
In my imagination I've always thought of Ax's voice as sounding younger than Elfangors but heck if I know. :)
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I also think as they get older, Andalite thoughts gain confidence, thus changing the tone of the thought. Like when you answer a question on a guess versus answering after knowing it.
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Good question. I would say yes, just because the Animorphs can distinguish their own thought speech "voices" between one another.
They can distinguish their own voices because their thoughtspeak voices sound like their spoken voices
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wait wait, so are you saying the voice that is projected is just the voice you think?
Then by that account, can you "think" yourself to sound like a girl? I mean, I can imagine my voice changing and sounding different. Would I be able to project that?
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I always just figured, from the way it I felt it was described, that thought speak was exactly like normal voices, but without mouths, so accents could be made, or voices changed, like someone doing a voice over for a cartoon. You can also go like the Matrix and sound like the way you think you sound as opposed to how you actually sound. Like how Neo didnt have any plugs in his skull in the actual Matrix because he thought he didn't.
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I always wondered that about Andalites also. Would a female Andalite's voice sound naturally different from a male's though there's no vocal cords involved? I've also wondered whether an Andalite could have a good singing voice via thought speech. You know how some people can sing better than others? Well, would that also apply to them? And if so, could you have have Andalites doing opera and Broadway musicals?! 0-0 LOL
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wait wait, so are you saying the voice that is projected is just the voice you think?
Then by that account, can you "think" yourself to sound like a girl? I mean, I can imagine my voice changing and sounding different. Would I be able to project that?
Thats how I always imagined it. Yea, I bet you could project that.
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I always wondered how people target thought speak. If you want to talk to say Rachel, Tobias, Marco, and Cassie, and Jake so Ax wouldnt hear, would you have to say their name or think of each person before you produced the thoughtspeak? It seems like that could take forever.
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I think you just think it and it works. Less bothersome, more direct.
As far as the "sound" of the thought, I'd think that everyone might sound kind of the same. Since we have voices, we can't really control what our natural voice sounds like. It just sounds like it how it sounds, so it gives variety. I would think after a while if there was no natural variations within Andalite thought-speak, that everyone would eventually end up sounding the same!
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Since in #30 Marco said Jake made his <voice> sound deeper, I guess it could change. I don't really know.
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really? hmmmm....
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I still say it would be awesome to see Andalites on Broadway :P
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The way I see it a person's thought-speak voice sounds like whatever you want it to sound like. The Animorphs' thought-speak voices probably sound like their normal voices because that's how they expect them to sound. Ax's voice sounds a bit more "childish" than Visser Three simply because he's younger.
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gosh, i just wonder how it sounds!!!
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The way I see it, thought-speech probably sounds and changes the way you grew up learning it. People grow up with different accents because they learnt and became accustomed to the way it sounds. Most young males and females would probably develop their thought-voices based on their parents, siblings and friends unconsciously. It's like the frolis manoeuvre you merge different parts together to represent you.
As you grow up your mind internalises what it visualises as your own voice so it becomes harder to imitate others. I guess it would be possible for people to impersonate other people's thought-voice if you practised enough or were naturally gifted. What I think would be interesting would be if you could "throw your thought voice" and trick others into thinking you are near or further away. I'm sure if Andalites did exist they'd have some who were more skilled than others at telepathy maybe not even limited to thought-speech but I digress.
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I was about to ask if Tobias's "voice" would have changed over the years.
Then I remember that he sounded different in 41; at least Jake didn't recognize it as Tobias's voice immediately, but then who knows if that's a real change or just more of the weird stuff happening in that book
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keep in mind that thoughtspeak, at least for andalites, does not work by transmitting sounds, it works more based on images. so for example when ax says "tobias is my shorm" he is focusing on an image of tobias, and then on a tail blade. andalites have no other form of communication, and it is a universal translator that lets them understand words. the voice changing as such, would be more likely represented by clarity/details in the images used.
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I remember from the book where Tobias gets tortured, when he morphs Ax, he feels that the Andalite mind is naturally full of optimism. During the series, many Andalites are battle-worn and wary. Thus, (I feel like I'm writing a speech) the Andalite's thoughtspeak would would grow from an optimistic child to a hardcore warrior, although in book 54, Marco says that civilian Andalites are much mellower than their warrior counterparts. So civilian andalites might have different thoughtspeak voices than warriors. Plus, I think the reason that the Animorphs could understand each other in thoughtspeak, is because a human naturally adopt their human voices, since they've heard it the most (avid television watchers exempted).
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keep in mind that thoughtspeak, at least for andalites, does not work by transmitting sounds, it works more based on images. so for example when ax says "tobias is my shorm" he is focusing on an image of tobias, and then on a tail blade. andalites have no other form of communication, and it is a universal translator that lets them understand words. the voice changing as such, would be more likely represented by clarity/details in the images used.
Yeah, why assume adalites even sound remotely human unless speaking directly to a human? although that would bring up another question, Im pretty sure the vissers have been overheard and understood by the animorphs at some point, right? Guess that might put a hole in that theory...
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thought speak is universally understood because of how it is transmitted to the brain, it doesnt rely on language at all. humans process it as words because thats what they are used to, but i always thought of thought speak as transmitting entire concepts, and skipping the middleman of using words to describe them, because if you can send a thought of exactly the kind of cat you are thinking of, why bother with a word for "cat"?
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i thought it would've sounded more mature.
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Good question. I would say yes, just because the Animorphs can distinguish their own thought speech "voices" between one another.
In my imagination I've always thought of Ax's voice as sounding younger than Elfangors but heck if I know. :)
As Jake and Marco proceed through their teenage years, will their thought speak voices get lower the same way their regular voices will?