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Animorphs Section => Animorphs Forum Classic => Topic started by: Nar Klawip on January 11, 2011, 01:04:48 PM
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Which 5 characters do you think had it worst and why?
Here are mine (in no particular order)
David: Just some poor new kid who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Alloran: The war screwed him up pretty bad. He was the Prince in charge of the expedition to the Yeerk homeworld that started the war, he failed to stop the Yeerks on the Hork Bajir Homeworld, and to top it off he became the first and only andalite controller.
Arbron: Stuck as a Taxxon nothlit. A prisoner to that awful Taxxon hunger, and that was no way to live.
Tom: He only joined The Sharing to meet girls and looked what happened.
Jake: at age 13, the weight of the freedom of the entire galaxy was thrust on his shoulders.
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Agreed. Although David and Alloran both made choices that led to their situations. They crossed lines and abused the power they were given and in the end they paid for it.
My choices:
Visser Four's Host body I can't think of his name, but he's the perfect example of an innocent who had to be taken out to serve the greater good.
Any of the Mercora or the Pemalites As you may read in my Chronicles of Sean fic, I think it's absoultely stupid when the only thing you want is to live a peaceful life with your own people and the others that you meet. And I hate it when decent people get killed just because someone else doesn't like you.
Any of the Howlers in The Attack Basically innocent kids who didn't know what they were doing was wrong.
Any host body of any species that was killed because of what the Yeerk did. 'Nuff said there.
Any Yeerk that was brutally killed just for making a mistake. Ditto.
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Any of the Mercora or the Pemalites As you may read in my Chronicles of Sean fic, I think it's absoultely stupid when the only thing you want is to live a peaceful life with your own people and the others that you meet. And I hate it when decent people get killed just because someone else doesn't like you.
Yeah, I agree completely. I think these quotes sum it up pretty well for me.
Jake in The Warning.
Mostly what people want is to be left alone. They just want to sit down and have a nice dinner and tell boring stories and tell jokes they've told a dozen times before.
But I guess there is always someone out there who thinks life, just plain old boring, sweet, everyday life, isn't enough. And that's when the killing starts. In this war it was the yeerks. But there had been an awful lot of wars when it was just human against human.
What is the matter with people that they don't know all that really counts is that people who love each other be able to be together, live in peace, learn, work, tell boring stories and dumb jokes? What do they think they're going to get that is better than that?
“To be killed is a sadness. To kill is a sin.” ~ Mercora pilot, MM #2
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Those are some good examples. I feel sorry for alloran, but I also know he wasn't totally innocent in things. If he had just taken the Yeerks seriously as a threat, and gone to the HB Homeworld with a full force right after he got the call, he would be a hero.
I also feel sorry for David, but I know his life wouldn't be a bed of roses if he had never found the box either.
I feel sorry for the Ellemist. About the only other person he can interact with on the same level as him is a psychopath. Crayak is just plain bad. Maybe The One is more of a well intentioned extremist at best. Who knows?
Anyone working under Visser Three, or other high ranking Vissers like Visser Three. The Yeerks who are terrified of messing up because Visser Three had a stupid idea, or maybe just because they aren't perfect. Also the hosts who never wanted to have anything to do with the Yeerks, and die because they know their Yeerk is going to fail at something eventually while being near visser Three.
The Pamelites who died just because Crayak hated The Ellemist. The Mercora who were screwed just because five kids from the future had never heard of any giant crab fossils being found.
I don't feel sorry for the Howlers. They had fun for their short lives, even if their idea of fun was slaughtering people. They didn't suffer, so I don't really feel bad for them.
I also feel bad for Tom, Jake, Rachel, and Tobias.
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In short right now, I wouldn't care to be any Yeerk killed by the Visser, Visser 3 himself, Marco for knowing that his mother was controlled, and Tobias for the struggles that he went through. There are others, but those are some on the top.
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1) Any of the Auxiliaries I mean, these kids pretty much gave their lives for a society that pretty much gave up on them, and how were they repaid? They weren't even mentioned post-war. It's bad enough that they were disabled, but they were also sent to their own deaths by Jake.
2) Erek He wanted so badly to do something--anything-- to stop the Yeerks, but his programming prevented him from doing so. And, when he finally did change his programming, he found that he couldn't cope with the act of violence. But mostly, I feel sorry for Erek because of what happened in Book 10. The fact that he has to live with the guilt of murdering over two dozen people--multiply that by 2 for the Yeerks in those bodies that were slaughtered-- as a reminder of his part in the war effort.
3) Loren Not only was she whisked away from her normal life on earth and, thus, exposed to a world far beyond her own comprehension--aliens, invasions, etc-- but just when she gets settled into a new life--a husband, a new born son, and some level of normalcy-- some strange being from outer space just takes away her husband, and erases her memory. And even after Loren gets her sight back, I think she fared pretty badly through the series.
4) Seerow The poor guy was probably one of the few Andalites in the series who wasn't openly arrogant twenty-four-seven, and gets kicked in the backside just for doing something good. He pitied the Yeerks, tried to teach them his ways, and extended a hand of friendship and his name became a joke for future generations.
5) Taylor If there is anyone who should be pitied in this series it's Taylor; no matter what choices she made. I can understand why she would willingly give herself over to the Yeerks--she was put in a pretty rough situation and figured that the Yeerks were her only way back to a life of semi-normalcy. But I don't pity Taylor because she temporarily lost her beauty--though, that has something to do with it--but because of what she became after book 33. I mean, she lost a lot more than her looks; she lost her sanity. And she had to live out an existence as psychotic monster.
Post Merged: January 11, 2011, 08:31:15 PM
I also wanted to add that I totally agree with what was said about David. But I disagree, somewhat, about pitying the other Animorphs. I mean, try to imagine the kids without the Yeerk Invasion, what kind of lives would they lead? Tobias gained freedom from the war, Rachel loved the thrill of battle, Marco not only got his mother back, but also became a millionaire after the war ended, Ax became a high ranking soldier in the Andalite military, Cassie ended up doing what she always wanted, and Jake found purpose in his life--no longer needing to live in his brother's shadow. And they get to MORPH! I mean, how freaking cool is that? :P
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I feel sorry for the auxiliaries and Loren too. Loren had her first husband and child taken away, and when they're finally reunited he leaves again because his girlfriend dies.
It must be hard having perfect memories and knowing atrocities like the Pamelites dying and what Erek personally did. I wonder why they can't just have the memories removed. Maybe they don't think that's morally right, and trivialized the events.
Seerow. Poor Seerow. He should have made sure he could destroy the Kandrona machines if the Yeerks tried something like this. Like some vital part that could be disabled from orbit or whatever.
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I wouldn't want to be:
1.David-Just a kid taken off the street and joined the Animorphs I knew it wouldn't work out.
2.Tom-Its sad to think he only joined The Sharing because of a girl and then he lost himself and died with a yeerk in his head...very sad.
3.Alloran-Very first and only Andalite controller and had to deal with all the pain and suffering of watching death caused all around you and you could do nothing to stop it.
4.Jake-Having to deal with all of the pressure of being the leader and having to guide everyone and tell them what to do.
5.Vice Principal Chapman-He only joined The Sharing because it was to prevent the infestation of his daughter.He had to live with that the whole series and such which is sad in my mind.
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I wouldn't want to be any host body who was taken unwillingly, and then loses their lives for something their YEERK did, not them, due to Visser Three's evilness. The level of wrongness of that is just staggering beyond belief. And they let this guy LIVE.
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1. Any of the involuntary hosts, but especially of the Vissers (Alloran, Eva, John Berryman). There is so much fridge horror involved in infestation - the complete lack of privacy, getting accustomed to a life without responsibility or autonomy, the erasure of a personality, the isolation, and in many cases the torture. Not to mention the notoriety and the fact that years after the war, Alloran and Eva are probably still the faces people picture when they think of Yeerk evil.
2. Tom. Oh God, what a tragic waste of a life. To lose all your autonomy so young.
3. Erek. Perfect memory must be borderline crippling.
4. Tobias. Dude, your life sucks.
5. David. I don't feel sorry for him because I think he's the twerpiest of twerpy-faced twerps, but his lot did suck.
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5. David. I think he's the twerpiest of twerpy-faced twerps, but his lot did suck.
Sorry, I just thought that was hilarious :P
I wouldn't want to be John Berryman. For the obvious reason that beeing wiped clean from existence sucks.
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1. Jake
2. Tom
3. Alloran
4. David
5. Taylor
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Any five of the seventeen thousand Yeerks flushed at Jake's order.
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I can think of one, and only one. Cassie. Everyone is jealous of her, and hates her. Poor chickadee.
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I honestly wouldn't want to be anybody in this universe. Everybody got screwed at some point
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David- for the reasons everyone has mentioned.
Visser One.
A Taxxon- man, being in that body must be living hell.
Cassie- to me her decisions were mostly wrong and to make it worse, K.A made the other characters eventually accept her choices as some form of insight or something when normally tose guys would never have accepted them (Ax and Rachel precisely). To me, it went against what those characters believed in, which is what made me dislike Cassie more.
And........ Jake. I would have gone mad Under all that pressure. How did he put up with Cassie? Pttf
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I can think of one, and only one. Cassie. Everyone is jealous of her, and hates her. Poor chickadee.
Cassie's really the only one of the original Animorphs to make it all the way through to the end relatively intact. If anything she'd be the only character in the series that I would want to be.
Anyway, if I'm reading the replies correctly, this looks like a "Which 5 characters had it the worst in the series?" question. As for David, I don't feel any sympathy for him at all. He got dealt a crap hand; so did Tobias. One tried to make the most of it (despite all the angst) and the other handled it in honestly the worst way imaginable. He couldn't control what happened to his parents and the target the Animorphs put on his head, but everything beyond that was purely his own doing. I don't know what made him think taking out all the other Animorphs was the best idea (although admittedly he did come rather close). The whole rat nothlit solution was only as horrifying as it was not purely for the idea that somebody was force-trapped into a rat morph, but mostly the fact that the Animorphs would have to live with the guilt of doing that (especially Ax and Rachel), even if they were justified. You're entitled to your opinions of course, I just have trouble imagining David belonging on the top 5 list when you consider characters like Arbron.
But I disagree, somewhat, about pitying the other Animorphs. I mean, try to imagine the kids without the Yeerk Invasion, what kind of lives would they lead? Tobias gained freedom from the war, Rachel loved the thrill of battle, Marco not only got his mother back, but also became a millionaire after the war ended, Ax became a high ranking soldier in the Andalite military, Cassie ended up doing what she always wanted, [...]
Tobias was really the one who profited in some ways after becoming an Animorph; sense of purpose, becoming romantically involved with Rachel (something that wouldn't have lasted very long at all if they never met Elfangor), and eventually meeting his mother. But the others? Sure, Marco did reunite his parents, but even if he didn't, Nora was a sweet woman who legitimately made his father happy and would've done a decent job in his mother's place. Not exactly worth the cost of a lot of things he had to do in the series (planning his own mother's assassination? That took a huge mental toll on him, and let's not forget when he almost got trapped in mid-morph as a roach). Rachel could've found that kind of thrill in other ways (ie extreme sports, workan' fo da poh-leece, counter-terrorism, etc.).
and Jake found purpose in his life--no longer needing to live in his brother's shadow.
...lol ._.
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Rachel the counter terrorist? *daydream*
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Rachel the counter terrorist? *daydream*
Aww yeaaaaah! Just imagine;
One young, blonde pretty girl VS a legion of highly trained terrorist snipers. You had to feel bad. For the terrorists, that is.
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*Rachel to male partner*
"Next time, you seduce the rich guy."
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One young, blonde pretty girl VS a legion of highly trained terrorist snipers. You had to feel bad. For the terrorists, that is.
Hm...that sounds like Artemis Fowl. Do you read it? Just wondering...
And would that be Rachel with morphing or without?
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Hm...that sounds like Artemis Fowl. Do you read it? Just wondering...
Oh wow, is that what it's from? And here I was thinking I was being original and clever ;_;
(And yes I did read the series years ago, although I stopped after the 5th because I didn't feel the later releases were as good as the first 3)
And would that be Rachel with morphing or without?
With our beloved Rachel, does it make a difference? I'd go as far as to say non-morphing Rachel would actually be more terrifying. At least when you watch in horror as a grizzly bear mauls a group of terrorists to death, you can think, "Yeah, well, it's a freaking grizzly bear, they didn't stand a chance." But when it's a young blonde teenager? It's laughable when such a girl thinks she can take down a team of grown men. It's downright disconcerting when she actually does it.
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I would not want to be (1)Tobias, (2)a host to a yeerk , (3)any of the auxiliary animorphs, (4)Crayak, (5)Cassie.
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I think Crayak got to have a good amount of fun though
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But doesn't Crayak keep on getting beat by the Ellimist? And lots of people hate him too...
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I think when you're crayak, you can livee with being hated and feared. When does it ever say he loses to the Ellemist besides over the yeerk war? Tehy could have had hundreds of games going on at once. He has to win SOME, at the very least.
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I sorta remember reading somewhere that he often gets beat by the ellimist... Maybe I'm wrong though.
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I think Crayak got to have a good amount of fun though
The Drode maybe, Crayak is too absorbed with the games to truly enjoy himself.
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Oh contraire. I think every "wake up in the middle of the night sweating" nightmare the animorphs had would have been the quivalent. Of a schoolboy punching his teacher in the face with no consequence.
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I think Crayak got to have a good amount of fun though
The Drode maybe, Crayak is too absorbed with the games to truly enjoy himself.
Yeah, the drode seemed to have tons of fun. Crayak seemed too serious to have fun
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In no particular order;
1. Cassie; everyone is just hating on her for not having a mental breakdown after the war and moving on with her life. And probably having a boyfriend that is not Jake.
2. Ax; he often gets the short end of the stick - he is stranded on an alien planet at an age equivalent to the rest of the Animorphs, his big brother is dead, he is the sole survivor of his domeship for most of the series and all the times he has a chance to go home but doesn't. That is rather heartbreaking. Also, he tortures Chapman. There is something to be said when an adolescent tortures another sentient being. Finally, he prevents WWIII by threatening Visser Two to drop a nuclear bomb on the main yeerk pool, and with it, his friends home and family in addition to his own home and likely victory. No matter how many medals and titles and honors he will get, that stuff will stay with you. Until you've lost your soul.
3. Ellimist; it's like Tobias except an infinite times worse. 'Nuff said.
That truly all at the time being. I'll have my other two later